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Location of Nema's basement please
« on: August 28, 2008, 11:45:09 PM »
First off great mod, little hard to find a couple chests  :-[ and some battles are stacked way against the player and I'm prisoner more than I'd like but overall looking good and am enjoying it. Was this mod inspired by the Zena warrior princess show in any way? The after winning battle sounds remind me of that show.
Love the grunting and groaning plus the "come on, come on", I can close my eyes and almost believe I'm somewhere else real enjoyable with the ladies. ;)  :P

On to the question/s.
Where is nema's basement located? I looked all over in the abbey and can't find it anywhere, even looked under the abbey where you can walk under it and nowhere to be found. :( I'm using M&B .960 and GP 2.1.0 for your reference. Did a forum search but did not find much help on the subject.
Only place that looks to lead down goes to the holy ground.

Plus a little question on Laia Thai, I managed to get her sort of after many many battles but she was then my prisoner so I then converted her to my party after dialog but the quest never ended. Still showed the quest Find Laia Thai even after I talked to her. Did I miss some other thing I was supposed to do?
So I went back to her city thinking the quest may reinitialize and she left my party but the quest never started over as I thought it might. :'(
Am I doomed to restart the game in order to get the quest again and Laia Thai?

Plus a possible bug, I asked Mora I believe for a task and she requested I train 7 darkness for her but on doing that and going back to her she only said "have you become dark" and no option to give her the troops she requested.

Thanks in advance for any info you can give on these things. 

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Re: Location of Nema's basement please
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2008, 12:51:36 AM »
First off great mod, little hard to find a couple chests  :-[ and some battles are stacked way against the player and I'm prisoner more than I'd like but overall looking good and am enjoying it. Was this mod inspired by the Zena warrior princess show in any way? The after winning battle sounds remind me of that show.

Love the grunting and groaning plus the "come on, come on", I can close my eyes and almost believe I'm somewhere else real enjoyable with the ladies. ;)  :P

On to the question/s.
Where is nema's basement located? I looked all over in the abbey and can't find it anywhere, even looked under the abbey where you can walk under it and nowhere to be found. :( I'm using M&B .960 and GP 2.1.0 for your reference. Did a forum search but did not find much help on the subject.
Only place that looks to lead down goes to the holy ground.

WHEN YOU ARE IN THE ABBEY, FIND A DOOR TO DREAMING TOWER. THERE YOU WILL FIND DOOR TO THE BASEMENT... I THINK THAT UNDERWATER ENTRANCE TO THE BASEMENT NOT WORK I.E. LEADS SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THIS VERSION.

Plus a little question on Laia Thai, I managed to get her sort of after many many battles but she was then my prisoner so I then converted her to my party after dialog but the quest never ended. Still showed the quest Find Laia Thai even after I talked to her. Did I miss some other thing I was supposed to do?
So I went back to her city thinking the quest may reinitialize and she left my party but the quest never started over as I thought it might. :'(
Am I doomed to restart the game in order to get the quest again and Laia Thai?

THIS QUEST NEVER END. NOTES ON THIS QUEST REMAINDING YOU ALL THE TIME, THAT SHE WILL STAY WITH YOU, IF YOU WILL NEVER VISIT HER TOWN AGAIN. I WILL PUT SOME REDIRECTIONS. QUEST CAN BE STOP WHEN SHE JOIN.

ISN'T IT POSSIBLE THAT GUILD MASTERS GENERATE KIDNAPPED GIRL QUEST AGAIN?

Plus a possible bug, I asked Mora I believe for a task and she requested I train 7 darkness for her but on doing that and going back to her she only said "have you become dark" and no option to give her the troops she requested.

IT MUST BE NATIVE QUEST. IT IS INTERESTING, BUT OF COURSE YOU CAN NOT HAVE SO MANY TROOPS SUCH KIND. YOU CAN CALL IT A BUG...

Thanks in advance for any info you can give on these things. 

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Re: Location of Nema's basement please
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2008, 01:24:17 AM »
Thanks for your time and quick response Nema.

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WHEN YOU ARE IN THE ABBEY, FIND A DOOR TO DREAMING TOWER. THERE YOU WILL FIND DOOR TO THE BASEMENT... I THINK THAT UNDERWATER ENTRANCE TO THE BASEMENT NOT WORK I.E. LEADS SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THIS VERSION.
Thanks for clarifying that I was looking in the wrong spot. :-[ Figured since it was Nema's basement it would logically be where I found her.  :P


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I WILL PUT SOME REDIRECTIONS. QUEST CAN BE STOP WHEN SHE JOIN.
That's exactly what I could not figure out how to end the quest after I got her. It never disappeared from the quest window so I could more on to other quests. Maybe you have to wait a certain amount of time? I gave it like two game days after she joined and it was still listed as an active quest.

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ISN'T IT POSSIBLE THAT GUILD MASTERS GENERATE KIDNAPPED GIRL QUEST AGAIN?

I have not received the quest again and it has been 7 days and I have taken and completed a number of guild master quests since she went back to her to town. Guess I'll wait some more and see if it is offered again. Maybe I'll try getting rid of my 4 darkness troops, that may be holding back the quest from generating again.

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IT MUST BE NATIVE QUEST. IT IS INTERESTING, BUT OF COURSE YOU CAN NOT HAVE SO MANY TROOPS SUCH KIND. YOU CAN CALL IT A BUG...
Thought it may be a conflict with Native, guess I'll just turn down those types of quests and suffer the loss in that character liking me (-3) when they ask for more than 5 darkness. Already did one asking for 5 and that worked just fine.

Thanks again for your time and all the answers to my questions.




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Re: Location of Nema's basement please
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2008, 05:40:05 AM »

Thanks for clarifying that I was looking in the wrong spot. :-[ Figured since it was Nema's basement it would logically be where I found her.  :P


Yes it is logical, but in other way it is just 2 doors away.



That's exactly what I could not figure out how to end the quest after I got her. It never disappeared from the quest window so I could more on to other quests. Maybe you have to wait a certain amount of time? I gave it like two game days after she joined and it was still listed as an active quest.

Bus as I think you have open 2 quest, one from nema with worning to not visit her home and also one from guid master. Isn't it so?


I have not received the quest again and it has been 7 days and I have taken and completed a number of guild master quests since she went back to her to town. Guess I'll wait some more and see if it is offered again. Maybe I'll try getting rid of my 4 darkness troops, that may be holding back the quest from generating again.

It was working in previous version, but now, who know_


Thought it may be a conflict with Native, guess I'll just turn down those types of quests and suffer the loss in that character liking me (-3) when they ask for more than 5 darkness. Already did one asking for 5 and that worked just fine.

Maybe you know if 7 is the top number of troops to upgrade in such quest in native.






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Re: Location of Nema's basement please
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2008, 07:20:40 AM »
Finally found the basement, tricky hiding spot you have for the chest as well. Took me about half an hour running around in the basement to find it.
Still have not found the chest hidden in one of the inns (taverns) though. Must be hidden pretty well as I went to all of them and still have not found it.  :o


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Bus as I think you have open 2 quest, one from nema with worning to not visit her home and also one from guid master. Isn't it so?

No I do not have any warning from Nema, only warning I got was in dialog not to take her creature (horse) but that was when I first got her. Maybe I missed that warning and went back there and the find Laia quest is now messed up.

My open quests as they stand right now are,
#1 Bring 4 khergit horsemen prisoners. Going to be impossible as every time I fight them they all get killed, so I'm going back to the giver to tell I can't complete it.

#2 Escort merchant caravan to Los Gratos.  Just took this quest right now from Guild master in Kilickitat where I first got the find Laia Thai (kidnapped girl) quest from. Took about 5 quests from there since she went back. Does this quest randomly spawn in different cities? Don't think I've took a guild master quest in each city since I've lost her, I'll check if she moved to another city maybe if that's possible.

#3 Find Laia Thai.

#4 Destroy undead armies. Pretty hard quest as they have average of 125 troops and 50 are darkness. Getting it done slow but sure though.  :D

If all else fails I'll just start over as I now know where most chests are hidden and it is easy to make money and recruit troops. Lost some of my magic books anyways to a army of 333 darkness troops.  :(



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Re: Location of Nema's basement please
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2008, 01:34:52 PM »
Still have not found the chest hidden in one of the inns (taverns) though. Must be hidden pretty well as I went to all of them and still have not found it.  :o

It is possible that there is no chest. I try to put them in all inns but I can fail. Tell me in witch town you did not find it?



No I do not have any warning from Nema, only warning I got was in dialog not to take her creature (horse) but that was when I first got her. Maybe I missed that warning and went back there and the find Laia quest is now messed up.

well, I checked notes from Laia Thai quest notes. There is a warring to not visit her town.

My open quests as they stand right now are,
#1 Bring 4 khergit horsemen prisoners. Going to be impossible as every time I fight them they all get killed, so I'm going back to the giver to tell I can't complete it.

Ha, I didn't check native quest. Of course there is no such troops in mode.

#2 Escort merchant caravan to Los Gratos.  Just took this quest right now from Guild master in Kilickitat where I first got the find Laia Thai (kidnapped girl) quest from. Took about 5 quests from there since she went back. Does this quest randomly spawn in different cities? Don't think I've took a guild master quest in each city since I've lost her, I'll check if she moved to another city maybe if that's possible.

These are native quests. When you talk with guardians castlelans you have special good paying jobs. Did you find them all. Every castelan lady except Galadriel have one. She's quest is to destroy at least 5 dark hunters troops. I didn't realised this one in code. Luck of time.

And about guild masters quests. I usually do such: I taking quest in every city, bud I don't finishing them. I think that quests are not doubled at once, so after few towns you can get right quest. In previous versions of native you must first take about 5 quests, but you must also finish some of them. Maybe, you will be lucky. But who know what is in code.


#3 Find Laia Thai.

Again you think. So at least you didn't succed in this quest. She leave you. In previous version I have tricky question given by LaiaThai. If you choosed this option she was disapeare in  50%

#4 Destroy undead armies. Pretty hard quest as they have average of 125 troops and 50 are darkness. Getting it done slow but sure though.  :D

As you said; slow but sure. Thats's how I kill them. Book of dead is effective against darkness troops But fight is still slow and sure, but faster.

If all else fails I'll just start over as I now know where most chests are hidden and it is easy to make money and recruit troops. Lost some of my magic books anyways to a army of 333 darkness troops.  :(

I already said, that you must have all the time many, many priceless weapons in your baggage. Things are pick randomly and if you have a lot of things with you...statistic...
And yes, it is easier to go trough the game again.  :green:




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Re: Location of Nema's basement please
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2008, 06:02:15 PM »
Thanks for all your answers and also for the time it is taking away from you doing other things.


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Still have not found the chest hidden in one of the inns (taverns) though. Must be hidden pretty well as I went to all of them and still have not found it.

It is possible that there is no chest. I try to put them in all inns but I can fail. Tell me in witch town you did not find it?
Guess we can chalk this up to maybe language barrier confusion, as I see all the "storage chests". When I read the "One for all inns" line in with the other treasure chest lines that made me think there was a hidden chest with treasure in it in one of the inn's (taverns). So guess that is sorted out and there is no? hidden treasure chest in any of the inn's so I'll stop running around in circles looking for it.  ;)

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well, I checked notes from Laia Thai quest notes. There is a warring to not visit her town.

Yea I do remember that warning I thought you were talking about not visiting Nema's abbey again in your other post here. I forgot about the warning and visited the Laia Thai's city (Klickitat) anyways. So does that mean I'll never get the quest again to get her back? Was reading some other post of yours that says she goes to the Holy grounds after you lose her but that was for an older version of GP or does it apply to this one as well. I go there and look anyways, worth a try I guess.

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My open quests as they stand right now are,
#1 Bring 4 khergit horsemen prisoners. Going to be impossible as every time I fight them they all get killed, so I'm going back to the giver to tell I can't complete it.

Ha, I didn't check native quest. Of course there is no such troops in mode.

The troops are there (Khergit horsemen) in GP in fact all the Khergit troops are there they even have lords and castles and cities but they are so weak they never get wounded and are always killed so I can't complete the quest. No biggie on that one as it was a quest from an enemy Lord anyways and I'll just cancel it.


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#2 Escort merchant caravan to Los Gratos.  Just took this quest right now from Guild master in Kilickitat where I first got the find Laia Thai (kidnapped girl) quest from. Took about 5 quests from there since she went back. Does this quest randomly spawn in different cities? Don't think I've took a guild master quest in each city since I've lost her, I'll check if she moved to another city maybe if that's possible.

These are native quests. When you talk with guardians castlelans you have special good paying jobs. Did you find them all. Every castelan lady except Galadriel have one. She's quest is to destroy at least 5 dark hunters troops. I didn't realised this one in code. Luck of time.

Yea I know those are native quests but I was trying to get the quest to rescue the kidnapped girl (Laia Thai) a second time. I'll do as you suggest and take multiple guildmaster quests at once and see if the kidnapped girl quest comes up again before I abandon this game and start over from the beginning. The multiple quests thing is actually a good idea if they are randomly spawned so thanks for that idea. Guess I got lucky the first time as it was the first guildmaster quest I was given.

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#3 Find Laia Thai.

Again you think. So at least you didn't succed in this quest. She leave you. In previous version I have tricky question given by LaiaThai. If you choosed this option she was disapeare in  50%

That's what got me into this whole predicament I did have her, first as a prisoner then I converted her to my party thru dialog but the "Find Laia Thai" never disappeared from the active quests list even after 2 game days that she was in my party. Maybe I missed something in the dialog when talking to her to get that to disappear. I'll have to check that when or if I get her back in my party.


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#4 Destroy undead armies. Pretty hard quest as they have average of 125 troops and 50 are darkness. Getting it done slow but sure though.  Grin

As you said; slow but sure. Thats's how I kill them. Book of dead is effective against darkness troops But fight is still slow and sure, but faster.

Yea book of the dead works great but it also wounds my troops, I probably wound 50% of my troops myself because everybody is in a big fighting clump. I even wound myself sometimes if I get too close with the flames. ;) Pretty funny to see the line "sexy biotch was wounded by sexy biotch" pop up on the screen. :lol:


All in all I'll go and try your multiple giuldmaster quest idea right now and see if I get the kidnapped girl quest again if not I'll just start all over again and use cheats to get back up to where I am in this game fast.

One other question if I may,
Is there a reason I can not alter my appearance when creating a character, Most of the choices don't do anything, can't even give my sexy elf hair. :'( I can give masks using the beards option I believe but that is all I'm able to do.

Thanks once again for taking the time to deal with all my annoying questions. ;)












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Re: Location of Nema's basement please
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2008, 08:21:16 PM »
Sorry for the double post but I finally got a quest to get back the kidnapped girl after like doing 20 more guildmaster quests so I've now got Laia Thai back and I did not even have to take her prisoner first. She got transfered right into my party from rescued prisoners.

Still have the problem of the Laia Thai quest still being listed in the active quest list though. Must be missing something I'm supposed to do, I'll try talking to everyone to see if I'm missing some dialog somewhere to get that cleared up and taken off the list. Maybe I need to speak to the lady in the flames?

Anyways thanks for all your help. Glad I did not have to start over at least I hope not. Hate to lose all my Darkness troops (about 325 right now and growing plus other various troops for a total of 380) I have stockpiled in my castle. Like to see someone siege that and be victorious.  :shock:

Possible spoiler/cheat below, forum users read and/or use at your own risk.  ;)
Got all those darkness because I found the trick to defeating large groups of darkness. You go to them with like say 6 darkness then they will "exchange" troops with you and you take all the darkness you can then keep dumping most off in your castle or maybe even disbanding them will work have not tried it. Keep repeating the cycle till your confident of a win, then go back and be victorious.  >:D
Kind of cheating but it works and saves me from being taken prisoner all the time and losing all my goodies. Hate walking thru the desert naked.  :P :-[ :lol:


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Re: Location of Nema's basement please
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2008, 06:44:39 AM »
Sorry for the double post but I finally got a quest to get back the kidnapped girl after like doing 20 more guildmaster quests so I've now got Laia Thai back and I did not even have to take her prisoner first. She got transfered right into my party from rescued prisoners.

So, it work

Still have the problem of the Laia Thai quest still being listed in the active quest list though. Must be missing something I'm supposed to do, I'll try talking to everyone to see if I'm missing some dialog somewhere to get that cleared up and taken off the list. Maybe I need to speak to the lady in the flames?

No, This quest will stay always active, I told you, I think. You can call it a bug or unfinished work in scripts or whatever.


Anyways thanks for all your help. Glad I did not have to start over at least I hope not. Hate to lose all my Darkness troops (about 325 right now and growing plus other various troops for a total of 380) I have stockpiled in my castle. Like to see someone siege that and be victorious.  :shock:

Possible spoiler/cheat below, forum users read and/or use at your own risk.  ;)
Got all those darkness because I found the trick to defeating large groups of darkness. You go to them with like say 6 darkness then they will "exchange" troops with you and you take all the darkness you can then keep dumping most off in your castle or maybe even disbanding them will work have not tried it. Keep repeating the cycle till your confident of a win, then go back and be victorious.  >:D
Kind of cheating but it works and saves me from being taken prisoner all the time and losing all my goodies. Hate walking thru the desert naked.  :P :-[ :lol:

He, that's how I playing GP. I told you, some things are easy if you find good tactic or impossible if you don't. Isn't is so. ;)



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Re: Location of Nema's basement please
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2008, 01:59:07 PM »
Yea the "exchanging" works great only found out it does not work with the big parties of Darkness only. Still have to fight, fight, fight them, I've just learned to stay away from the enemy and let my party thin and scatter them out first. Since my only needing one hit by a darkness to be wounded, it makes no sense for me to charge into that big mass of swinging weapons.
I just stay on the outside of the fight and pick off the stragglers.  :D

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Re: Location of Nema's basement please
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2008, 05:09:33 AM »
Yea the "exchanging" works great only found out it does not work with the big parties of Darkness only. Still have to fight, fight, fight them, I've just learned to stay away from the enemy and let my party thin and scatter them out first. Since my only needing one hit by a darkness to be wounded, it makes no sense for me to charge into that big mass of swinging weapons.
I just stay on the outside of the fight and pick off the stragglers.  :D

I suggest you duels nearby main battle or use of firearms.

Of course if you are in hurry as I when testing, you are free to send your troops alone to fight, then heal them, and recruit new evil troops and fight again. But playing without real battles can be boring. Exchanging works with all evil troops. But you learn already that you can pass waters with dry foots in GP almost every where. You must just take a little time to discover the secrets of this mod. Basics of GP are not laying in fights, but in discovering of the things.  ;) even if you ask nema  >:D(hey, it is just regular way to found out something, but I always hope that you will discover things alone.)
« Last Edit: September 03, 2008, 05:12:46 AM by nema »

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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2008, 10:01:52 PM »
or, as i realised the book of death can take out whole groups of ppl so just get that bad boy out take aim and try to score as many in 1 shot i managed about 6 shadow knights once it was damn cool they all just crumpled to the floor. thanks for that awesome weapon. 8)

p.s can someone give me a hint for the three commoner chests? i dont understand all the tips they provide thanx :lol:

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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2008, 10:30:09 PM »
Only thing bad about the book of the dead Ghoste is you can also take out your troops and yourself if your not careful. I took out half my own troops myself once and wounded myself numerous times getting over zealous with the trigger.  :lol:

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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2008, 10:48:00 PM »
True....i took out all my allies when i fought a group of shadow knights attacking a town they were all clustering so i went trigger happy!!! and like no allies were left............ oh ya is there any way to retrieve the books u give to the vassals of the guardians for the well paid quests?

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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2008, 02:14:38 AM »
I only had one book quest that I remember from Mora I believe and don't think there is any way to get it back. Did not do any magic or anything that I remember anyways.