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Mount&Blade Expansion => The Last Days => TLD.808 => Topic started by: Ancientwanker on September 11, 2007, 12:32:25 PM

Title: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Ancientwanker on September 11, 2007, 12:32:25 PM
The new bug thread for 2.4.  

Make sure you are playing 2.4. The old man will now tell you the version number in his first dialogue. For some reason the folder to launch TLD has changed from "the last days" to "tld" and I didnt catch it before release. The next patch will have to stay with the same format I guess.

I didnt get to everything in the old thread so Ill include it here for reference.  Feel free to post any old bugs here again in case I missed them.   I probably wont have any time for quick bug fixes but should be able to start up on another patch in a few weeks.

The bug that is of most interest to me is the training bug where it was crashing. If its not fixed with this version Ill need to reorder some slots as it might be that my slots are conflicting with some internal m&b slot calls. It's my next guess anyway.

Oh yeah, if you have an item issue (weapon, armor, etc), specify whether you are playing RCM or vanilla. It will make it a bit easier to fix as there are likely some differences lingering in those files.

The old 2.3.1 bug thread for reference purposes:
http://mbx.streetofeyes.com/index.php/topic,581.0.html

Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: jingolobam on September 11, 2007, 04:57:29 PM
I have choosen the +10% healin boost at the old man, but it heals me completly in all cases, at down or dusk. It is however different with Mablung. He recievs just a small health bonus.

--fixed for 2.4.1
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on September 11, 2007, 10:45:20 PM
Here's a good one.  When trying to buy/sell armor at the brigand fort, BUNK, "unable to find mesh armor_arena_blue" ... repeats with other colors.  The armors show up fine in the arena, and I'm pretty sure they weren't supposed to be for sale anyway.

That is the RCM version items file.

--fixed for 2.4.1
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: jingolobam on September 12, 2007, 03:38:10 AM
I play  a gondorian, and can't hire Ulfas. My conversation with him: ULFAS - Surrender or die, make your choice. ME - I am not afraid of you, i will fight (this option is in two different text blocks, and nothing else). What have i done to make him so angry on me?

--fixed for 2.4.1
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Merlkir on September 12, 2007, 05:46:12 AM
you can still buy galadhrim arrows in Minas Morgul :)

--fixed for 2.4.1

--one of those things fixed in vanilla that I missed for RCM.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: addict on September 12, 2007, 05:57:23 AM
In the face editor Orc (swart), "chin length" and "chin width" are swapped.

--ill leave this for now to avoid remaking all those faces.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Wood on September 12, 2007, 09:25:22 AM
There doesn't seem to be wolves for sale anywhere. There are horses though.

I got an error as my orc companion healed from a major wound:
e:\develop\mb\program\src\party.h, Line: 632, m.number >0

Fixed for 2.4.1

In the face editor Orc (swart), "chin length" and "chin width" are swapped.
Also true for Uruk Hai.

The new Uruk Hai helmets look great but the eye holes are not well aligned with the eyes.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: slyspy on September 12, 2007, 08:00:59 PM
The merchant at the Bandit Fort still has no money or horses.

--fixed for 2.4.1
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Boosh on September 12, 2007, 10:41:32 PM
The Thrusting sword bug was not completely fixed. It now has a scabbard, but still crashes the game when I attempt to draw it.

rcm or vanilla?

Make sure you are actually playing 2.4 as I couldnt find a problem with it in vanilla or RCM. When you talk to the old man he should say its version 2.4 at the bottom of his first dialogue.

Apparently the old tld folder was "the_last_days" whereas 2.4 is "tld".
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: ccabezas on September 13, 2007, 01:10:23 AM
This is the strangest thing ever happened to me.

I play an Isergard Wolf rider. When assisting a Moria Patrol against several elf parties (Lothlorien Scouts, Lothlorien Patrol, Rivendell Patrol), I got wounded and left the fight. Then the Moria Patrol left the battle and the several parties involved split. Two of the attacked the Moria Patrol again and the third of them was a Party of 0 Lothlorien Scouts, which I attacked. Of course, there was no battle, and after pressing the tab key, a new city (Aldburg) appeared right where the battle had taken place.

I checked the map and Aldburg was not in its original place (Rohan), It seems to have flown and settled across the bridge of Moria, far away where it should be.

I have a screener but can't attach it to this message. Anybody interested please mail me and I will send it.

Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on September 13, 2007, 04:19:01 AM
That's kind of scary ... quests get canceled for no reason.  Better than quests you can never get rid of, but still odd.  Maybe that would be better if the quest were handed off to the lieutenant who is left in charge... so if the orders were to get a bunch of sumpter horses or something, you wouldn't be left with a bunch of stinking horses.

 How you can cancel/get quests is quite limited at the moment and this was the best quick fix I could do.  The better option, as Bryce suggested, is to have the castellans handle the quests all the time as they dont leave. Ill look at this for a future update.

Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: The Yogi on September 13, 2007, 04:20:27 AM
When talking to a country levy party after killing some brigands together, I got told that Mirkwood was crushed. BEFORE the war of the ring had started. Was the news wrong? Otherwise, how could Mirkwood be crushed before they spawned any hosts?

sounds like a bug. I didnt put false info in yet.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Demonic Spoon on September 13, 2007, 03:56:00 PM
-Isengard rescue is broken, at least it was for me. Craptons of enemies were stuck in the wall, passing through each other, and the ability to see me through a wall.

actually stuck in the wall? or just pressed up against it? Which level was this, can you describe the floor layout?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: RavenSteel on September 13, 2007, 05:56:30 PM
 I downloaded it but when I go on and the loading screen goes, it stops at textures and crashes saying that one of the costume files couldn't be opened. I'll see which one it is and clarify it.

you may not have enough texture memory. Make sure you are loading the "TLD" module (thats 2.4). Apparently the old 2.3 one was called "The_Last_Days" in the mod menu.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: The Yogi on September 14, 2007, 12:53:38 AM
I play  a gondorian, and can't hire Ulfas. My conversation with him: ULFAS - Surrender or die, make your choice. ME - I am not afraid of you, i will fight (this option is in two different text blocks, and nothing else). What have i done to make him so angry on me?

Can confirm this bug too. AW, maybe a minifix update to take care of this one thing? It's really annoying not being able to hire Ulfas. Haven't noticing anything else gamebreaking so far.

--fixed for 2.4.1
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Kohlrabi on September 14, 2007, 08:17:42 AM
Had a CTD.
Went to a fight between a Gondor caravan, and a brigand party.
My option was "don´t get involved", and when I clicked it, I got a RGL error: "could not create texture height=256 width=256"
Sorry for not providing a screen.
Enjoying this awesome mod as usual, love the new additions and bugfixes.

Edit: Tried exactly the same thing with the same fight, no CTD.

..dunno..

Second edit: Realized it could have something to do with me trying out the new map...
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Forral on September 14, 2007, 09:45:05 AM
I recieved a rather peculiar quest log entry after being given the final quest as the elven faction from Galadriel. Screenshot attached.

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2774/bugreportcb6.jpg

--fixed for 2.4.1
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: pcripper on September 14, 2007, 04:56:50 PM
For me Balan is broken (goblin quest guy in Bandit Fort). He doesn't get the message that he's paid me for killing those pesky goblins already and will pay me repeatedly for killing the same batch over and over again. I killed 16 groups of em and I can get 400 dinars every time I talk to him

--fixed for 2.4.1
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Stemmers? on September 14, 2007, 11:02:03 PM
Brigand Champion trait still isn't working. The enemies just kept coming, and I was knocked out with 123 opponents killed. No special dialogue, no nothing. I was playing as an Uruk-Hai.

make sure you are playing 2.4, the old man will tell you the version. I tested the brigand fort contest with an orc and was able to get it. Ill check the orc pits (which have their own dialogue) in a bit.   The 2.3 and 2.4 versions of tld use seperate folders for some reason, you want to load the "TLD" folder in the mod window...just in case.

By the way, has anyone noticed that the spell checker on this board doesn't recognize the word "dialogue"? I keep thinking I'm spelling it wrong or something...

Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on September 15, 2007, 12:19:52 AM
I don't know if this is a suggestion or a bug report, but I think it needs to go in bug reports.

We need adjustable loot percentages in the "old man" menu.

In the RCM version, combat losses are often far exceeding return on loot.  The player's party just gets smaller and poorer until they finally disappear.  Later in the game, with higher healing and trade skills, this might be less noticeable ... but early, it's quite unpleasant.  Increasing party size (troops per point of leadership) so that the player can actually influence the war makes the problem worse.

This was a huge problem in ONR recently, and loot returns in TLD are not even one-tenth of what was proving unplayable in ONR. 

Because there are two versions of TLD, and because the whole player-configurable thing is a major theme of the game balance, it should certainly be configurable.  But it needs to be configurable to a relatively wide scale, going up to 10x or more of what it is now. 

It would be better than forcing everybody to cheat and just import a character with a lot of money, or spend a gazillion years in the arena trying to pay for his army.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Stemmers? on September 15, 2007, 01:00:38 AM
Brigand Champion trait still isn't working. The enemies just kept coming, and I was knocked out with 123 opponents killed. No special dialogue, no nothing. I was playing as an Uruk-Hai.

By the way, has anyone noticed that the spell checker on this board doesn't recognize the word "dialogue"? I keep thinking I'm spelling it wrong or something...

In U.S. English, the word is spelled "dialog" ... the -ue ending is French spelling, although it may be used in England or elsewhere.


Funny, I've lived in Philadelphia my entire life and I've always spelled it "dialogue". Never been corrected, either, so maybe it's a regional difference.

I spell it with a -ue as well iirc and Im originally from the north. Dunno. Though I can clearly remember reading about dialog buttons and boxes in the past.

Also: Orc Pit Champion (or whatever it's called) isn't working either. I whacked 103 Orcs and got nothing for it. So neither arena reward seems to be working. I'm using the RCM, if that's relevant, although I don't see how it could be.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Daergar on September 15, 2007, 01:19:55 AM
It's been reported before, but just in case it's believed to be fixed.

Bug: At midnight, definately tied to training skill/training code as it comes and goes, an ignorable pop-up appears with the "Expression: m.number > 0". Not a big deal, except the first few times when you hold the spacebar to pass time and you manage to exit the game.

shit, ok, time to reorder the slots. This is the one I was most curious about.

--reordered the slots....it might be fixed for 2.4.1   :P  ;)

And I disagree with Ron regarding the loot. If you do the missions you are assigned, the loot becomes almost inconsequential, though it still feels like I could survive on loot alone. I do agree that there is the proverbial hump to pass in the beginning, but as a mounted Rohan player I had no problems what so ever (way less than in ONR) to pay for whatever I needed. It might be horrible for an elf or orcsy though, as I haven't tested those enough. Might depend on playingstyle and what troops you employ?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Daergar on September 15, 2007, 03:39:04 AM
CTD/bug. Rohan, day 65, dawn. Dol Goldur had fallen a few hours earlier.

Defeated a lesser host of Dol Goldur, with the help of a great host of Lothlorien. Orophin died in the battle. I paid my respects/prayed at his mound. Started moving away and got a Microsoft generic error report along with a ctd.

Loaded up the game numerous times since, sound disabled etc, to try and work around it but to no avail. Don't suppose there's anything to do to salvage it? Irks me, was having a lot of fun.

post the save and ill have a look.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Father Chains on September 15, 2007, 04:43:57 AM
Yeah, so, Haldir had given me a mission to kill Dol Guldur scouts. I'd eliminated seven parties, and I was going to Cerin Amroth to bag my reward. At the ford by Caras Galadhon, though, I got a message.

"Gone slaying, be back in 5, mission rescinded"

So, I was pissed. REALLY pissed. Seven scout parties and no reward. I went to Cerin Amroth anyway, to get a new mission from his lieutenant.

And guess what?

The bastard was still there. I'd lost my mission, and he was still there, and not off with an army. On my way to bring a message from Woodelf Camp to Cerin Dolen, I encountered an army of Lothlórien led by Elladan and Elrohir. The mission I was doing for Elrohir, was not rescinded.

A major, and most annoying, bug.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Tepsu on September 15, 2007, 06:31:03 AM
I have played this new version couple of times.  Sometimes my player just dissapere on the world map and game just go on and on but i cannot do anything. I cannot press Quest or party. and i dont see me.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Boiled Ice on September 15, 2007, 06:44:45 AM
I got an RGL error when I tried to talk to one of the merchants in the Brigand Fort.  The one closer to your spawn spot when you enter the fort.

--fixed for 2.4.1
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Sgt William on September 15, 2007, 12:56:52 PM
I'm playing as an elf, and when I go to the troop hiring dialogue with the leaders, they call me a "man-child" or man. They also mention something that I need to be some what influenced to hire elves, as if I were a man. To hire the troops I need 25-40 influence points.

Is this a bug?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Merlkir on September 15, 2007, 12:58:14 PM
I'm playing as an elf, and when I go to the troop hiring dialogue with the leaders, they call me a "man-child" or man. They also mention something that I need to be some what influenced to hire elves, as if I were a man. To hire the troops I need 25-40 influence points.

Is this a bug?

the part with a man-child yes. Elves do hire troops through influence though. (as they're above the low money users or something ;)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: CCA on September 15, 2007, 03:39:14 PM
Bug Report

Version 2.4 with RCM Enabled.

"Capture Agent of Mordor" Quest broken, Denethor gave me the quest I did it, captured the mordor agent who is know a prisoner, I went to Minas Tirith talked to Denethor, no option to finish the quest, I can get it rescinded for 48 influence but i dont wanna do that.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: The Yogi on September 15, 2007, 03:42:42 PM
Bug Report

Version 2.4 with RCM Enabled.

"Capture Agent of Mordor" Quest broken, Denethor gave me the quest I did it, captured the mordor agent who is know a prisoner, I went to Minas Tirith talked to Denethor, no option to finish the quest, I can get it rescinded for 48 influence but i dont wanna do that.

This quest worked for me, although I got it from the Fat Lord of Lossarnach, not Denethor.

However, playing as Gondorian, I was unable to get the "Destroy Great host of Mordor quest" even though there was a great host active. Maybe I was to low rank? (Lieutenant)


Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: slyspy on September 15, 2007, 08:06:37 PM
I've had the "kill -insert name here-, leader of the great host of -which ever faction-" quest but never the "destroy the great host of -which ever faction-" quest.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Stemmers? on September 16, 2007, 02:17:27 PM
Playing as Isengard, I'm getting a lot of bows dropping as loot that have no Power Draw requirement. Some have the problem and some don't. For example, I found a recurve bow with no power draw requirement and later a cracked recurve bow the regular requirement of 3. I'm using RCM, so it might be an RCM bug.

ah yeah, that's an rcm thing that I did in vanilla too but they dont drop as loot in vanilla. Ill add that to RCM as well. It's just a way around the powerdraw/effectiveness linkage.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Stemmers? on September 16, 2007, 02:22:55 PM
Lossarnarch Coursers can be purchased from evil merchants. I found mine in the Dunlending Camp.

fixed for 2.4.1
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Daergar on September 16, 2007, 03:15:35 PM
When turning in the "Capture brigand leader, lieutenant or lord" it grabs all the possible matches from you captives. Ie, I had three lieutenants and one lord, the lord being captured last of the bunch. He accepted the quest, then I believe I got one reward for the lord plus a lower one with the amount that might match the reward for one lieutenant (both popped up on the screen list consecutively). Seemed a bit messed up either way.

Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: norup on September 16, 2007, 03:24:41 PM
At the Arena of Brigand Fort, something odd is going on with the shields.
In the Tilting match, you can ask for a mace and a shield and a sword with a board(=shield?), but you do not get a shield. I also looks like the player should carry a shield when on horseback, just as the opponent, but no shield...

native issue.
 
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Sibilance on September 16, 2007, 07:46:36 PM
As an Isengard RCM player before the war's beginning, I received a quest from Mog the seven fingered to get 3 rohan youths for his all-you-can-eat buffet. I returned with them about a week after the war started, but Mog was no longer interested for some reason, presumably due to a lack of barbecue sauce and having the wrong utensils. It must be pretty difficult to use chopsticks if you've only got seven fingers, so can somebody give poor Mog a spork?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Lanky on September 17, 2007, 01:40:04 AM
At evil arenas the "start with bow and short sword" option gives the player only 20-something arrows. This means that you have to use your secondary weapon to kill at least 75 enemies in order to gain the arena champion trait. More arrows would be grand, considering that you could hold at least three quivers(which may be unrealistic logistically, but so is killing 100 men by yourself.)

ok, doubled the arrows.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: CCA on September 17, 2007, 02:29:08 AM
Ok if you have a quest that you can't seem to finish even though you've met the requisites.

heres what you do:

1.Rescind the order.
2.Talk to the guy who gave you the order there should now be an option to sucessfully complete the mission, problem solved(at the expense of influence however)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: GetAssista on September 17, 2007, 02:46:44 AM
Am I the only one having wrong shaders for wooden swords and bows (metallic shining)? Peculiar thing is that they are right in some scenes and wrong in other. E.g. I have nice wooden bow when talking to arenamaster, but shining wooden bow in the arena match. 
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on September 17, 2007, 06:43:51 PM
Dismounted horsemen still have their names high above their heads as if they are still mounted

I seem to get rohan riders out of nowhere, as in without me recruiting or rescuing them. They just pop into my party....rarely
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Elmar Bijlsma on September 17, 2007, 08:16:23 PM
Yeah, so, Haldir had given me a mission to kill Dol Guldur scouts. I'd eliminated seven parties, and I was going to Cerin Amroth to bag my reward. At the ford by Caras Galadhon, though, I got a message. "Gone slaying, be back in 5, mission rescinded" So, I was pissed. REALLY pissed. Seven scout parties and no reward. I went to Cerin Amroth anyway, to get a new mission from his lieutenant. The bastard was still there. I'd lost my mission, and he was still there, and not off with an army. On my way to bring a message from Woodelf Camp to Cerin Dolen, I encountered an army of Lothlórien led by Elladan and Elrohir. The mission I was doing for Elrohir, was not rescinded.

Got more or less the same thing. Was doing a scouting quest for Rivendell when I got the message that Haldir took the field. Bummer, I thought but I soon discovered Haldir was still where was supposed to be and Eledan and Elrohir was seen moving woth a host. This leaves me unable to cancel the scouting mission they gave me.  This is a double bummer as that's the one you can do repeatedly without weakening  Dol Goldur. I'm having a helluva hard time playing as an elf whilst keeping Dol Guldur in the game long enough for me to max out rank/income. I had to resort to friendly fire to take down an Elven great host+ friends who were wailing on the last great host the wavering Dol Goldur had in the field.  I take it the elves still get nada quest after victory in the north? An elven quest giver in Minas Tirith after victory in the north would go a long way.

Wouldn't mind seeing the hired help handle all quests, as suggested.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Beleg Strongbow on September 17, 2007, 10:45:53 PM

Got more or less the same thing. Was doing a scouting quest for Rivendell when I got the message that Haldir took the field. Bummer, I thought but I soon discovered Haldir was still where was supposed to be and Eledan and Elrohir was seen moving woth a host. This leaves me unable to cancel the scouting mission they gave me.  This is a double bummer as that's the one you can do repeatedly without weakening  Dol Goldur. I'm having a helluva hard time playing as an elf whilst keeping Dol Guldur in the game long enough for me to max out rank/income. I had to resort to friendly fire to take down an Elven great host+ friends who were wailing on the last great host the wavering Dol Goldur had in the field.  I take it the elves still get nada quest after victory in the north? An elven quest giver in Minas Tirith after victory in the north would go a long way.

Wouldn't mind seeing the hired help handle all quests, as suggested.

I had to laugh when I read this one! :D
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Oldtimer on September 18, 2007, 12:05:22 AM
Hi,

playing elf, no RCM, I started getting game-breaking freeze ups of the game at abt.  day 75 just after defeating Dol Guldur and achieving elven victory in the north.

It happens in two ways:

- sometimes I get a message: Assertion failed! Program\Mount&Blade\mount&blade.exe
File: e:\develop\mb\program\src\party.h
Line: 632
Expression: m.number>0

This I can solve by the Ignore command.

But very often there is no message and the only option is to restart computer and hope that the next freeze up will come with message.
This happens very often at different times of the day and ALWAYS at midnight.

Regards, Oldtimer

send me the save if you get a chance. Do you or your heroes have the training skill? Im trying to gather as many of these saves as possible to detect the common elements.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: nonrumpali on September 18, 2007, 03:35:51 AM
Not sure if it's a bug, but Eothain doesn't seem to heal from his head injury. I've visited Freya the healer about 4 times and he just doesn't heal. He has leveled up maybe twice while he has been injured. Ulfas on the other hand did heal when I visited Freya on the first time. I don't think he had leveled up when he was injured.

He can heal head wounds, I checked.

Going to the healer is not an automatic heal, it just boosts the odds. You can still be unlucky and the wound can last for some time. I levelled him as well just to be sure that wasnt a problem.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on September 18, 2007, 06:30:27 AM
The order for weapon changes doesn't work, I still see my Tower Guards carry both spears and swords  :-\

odd one, I just tested it and they switch from spear to sword and back again.

Start a new game just to see if you can at least do it at the start of the game (cheat them up to tower guard level). This might be a later game bug that pops up (slots could get messed up by something else later).
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Egoist XIV on September 18, 2007, 09:03:23 AM
I was playing TLD as an uruk-hai warrior and fighting a lesser mirkwood host, when the game froze and gave this error report:

(http://images5.pictiger.com/thumbs/73/7f8b389e0afa418914cc7afc1c6cca73.th.jpg) (http://server5.pictiger.com/img/1350918/computer-games-and-screenshots/m-b-error.php)
The options are in Finnish and mean something like Abort, Retry and Bypass. From left to right. I pressed Bypass and the screen went white and I had to use taskmanager to shut M&B down.

do you have the berserker trait? Any other unusual traits? Can you give me an idea of what units are in your army?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Kiivit on September 18, 2007, 07:03:06 PM
I actually get that a lot too.  I just push "Ignore" it's only CTD'd me once.

Playing as an Elf the "Rescue Celeborn from Minas Morgul" mission seems to be bugged.  It took forever but I finally got to Celeborn all alone and what does he do?  He ATTACKS ME!  There were also several Gondorian NPCs there who also attacked me.  It didn't seem like there were any other options so I shot him to see if it was just a glitch with enemies left.  But then it goes back to "Sneak into the city" or "Leave" options.

What is going on? :( I want to rescue him

He has to be an enemy or they will kill him immediately (and ignore you.  :lol:). If you walk up close to him, it triggers the end of rescue.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: qalnor on September 18, 2007, 07:08:10 PM
I have a capture quest that I can't complete. Is there any way to get rid of it without giving up influence or a way to cheat up influence to replace it?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: The Yogi on September 19, 2007, 12:49:38 AM
The order for weapon changes doesn't work, I still see my Tower Guards carry both spears and swords  :-\

Can confirm this now. It doesn't work. I've even tried to order them back to spears and then swords again right before combat. No change, they use spears.

odd one, I just tested it and they switch from spear to sword and back again.

Start a new game just to see if you can at least do it at the start of the game (cheat them up to tower guard level). This might be a later game bug that pops up (slots could get messed up by something else later).
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: FleshyStarfish on September 19, 2007, 02:01:12 AM
Sorry for placing this in 2.4, but this really caught my attention yesterday.

I was playing the last version 2.3.1 and had something interesting happen.  I had completely destroyed all factions and finished all the legions of Mordor, but the game kept going on forever.  After about 2 hrs of game play, I almost had it (I had killed the legions 2 days ago!).  Then, I looked over at Minas Tirith and saw something that really heavily surprised me.  It said "siege" above the name Minas Tirith.  Perplexed, I brought my troops there only to find that a Gondorian great host was sieging Minas Tirith.  Upset, I quickly tried to engage them only to find a screen that showed a very long list of troops names and my commanders.  Then, the game got stuck and the only way out was to end TLD via the task manager.  Was this a bug of the last version or could this be something that wasn't fixed?

Sorry I am not able to provide screenshots.  It all happened a little too quick for me to think of hitting the print screen button.

FS

Should be fine in 2.4, thats a 2.3.1 bug. I redid the orders in 2.4 using newer m&b techniques. I havent seen it reported in 2.4 yet anyway.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Daergar on September 19, 2007, 12:58:01 PM
I don't want to sound like a bastard, which I am(figuratively speaking), but... when you're going to finish that bugfix for 2.4? :P
I'd love to TDL play when I really, really, REALLY know there aren't going to be crashes, missing meshes or silly mistakes whatsoever. It kinda irritated me when I lost half of my heroes when I rescued them whilst out of room for new party members back in the 2.3.

A, make sure you got room in your party, that's basic logic man.  :green:

B, uhm, play with "Allow me to quit without saving", always. Especially in a new release, it tends to save you from game breaking bugs (regardless whether it's native/any other mod). Suffered over a dozen serious bugs and one game breaking one with the new 890. Sure would have pissed me off too if I wasn't able to revert to my save game and do something differently.

Just to back myself up, I did one Rohan game to day 65 when I got a game breaker, sadly I saved the moment before it happened so it got dead in the water. Did a second Rohan game, lasted to day 57 when I had "won" even if Mordor fell before the Easterlings. So TLD 2.4 is very much playable in its current state, minus the tweaking needed for the parties if you use RCM and want to play with orcsies. Though I view it as an insane challenge instead, even if it is very lopsided.  ;)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: qalnor on September 19, 2007, 04:43:53 PM
Capture what?  Capturing 'noblemen' quests go away once the nobleman reaches his destination.  If it's a 'capture lieutenant/captain' then no, I think you have to spend influence.  Though if it's a lieutenant it's easy and if it's a captain just wait until you can do it and you'll get an ass-tonne of promotionish point stuff towards your next promo :).

It's the other kind, to capture 'n X blah blah'  in this case veteran riders of rohan.

And it's not that I can't accomplish the quest, it's that the quest won't complete. But I guess the answer is still the same.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on September 19, 2007, 06:26:20 PM
Aftering finishing the "rescue Elf Lord" Quest, I went to Galadriel to tell her the good news, and she paid me afterwards. The problem is, I keep telling her the same thing, and she doesn't seem to get the message that Celeborn is rescued already, she just keeps saying yay! and pays me another 2500. Seems that the elves are as gullible as ever nowadays  ???
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: esquilax on September 19, 2007, 08:46:09 PM
Playing RCM, the Helm of Khamul (the helmet you get from Mordor's Armory) doesn't have a mesh, and gives an error message saying so.

fixed for 2.4.1
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Kiivit on September 19, 2007, 10:38:51 PM
Aftering finishing the "rescue Elf Lord" Quest, I went to Galadriel to tell her the good news, and she paid me afterwards. The problem is, I keep telling her the same thing, and she doesn't seem to get the message that Celeborn is rescued already, she just keeps saying yay! and pays me another 2500. Seems that the elves are as gullible as ever nowadays  ???

Lol, I had some problems with this quest too.  As a man I could get Celeborn to talk to me in the prison cell but as an Elf I couldn't.  He just ran in circles trying to punch me.

EDIT: Yup I can verify this error.  Didn't realize it but after turning it in I still had the quest (as a man) and it won't go away.  I can just keep getting 2500 over and over.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: FleshyStarfish on September 20, 2007, 01:06:22 AM
I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, however, when I went to purchase wargs in Moria at first they didn't show up.  Then, on day 5 there was one uber super warg costing something like 3 trillion denar.  So, I left.  However, whenever I returned on day 8 or 9 there was nothing available for buying.  On day 14, there was still nothing in the inventory.

Could that be a bug?  Or was it intentional to simulate a merchant selling and buying new items (all other merchants still have the same things for sale based on a week).

Dunno. I just found a "spirited great wolf" for sale at moria for 3600. Ill check for wargs.. They are a bit rarer than horses.

FS
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on September 20, 2007, 02:28:15 PM
That new quest doesn't seem to work (don't wanna spoil anything so this is as clear as I'll be, unless you ask me to specify)

what new quest? no quests were added in the patch. from 2.3?

-----------------------------------
NEW

After defeating a lesser host of the haradrim, this came up

(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5453/untitled18vb5.png)

It's probably not a TLD issue, but this never happened to me before  :-\
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: nonrumpali on September 20, 2007, 04:49:36 PM
Hmm, I remember doing the evil sorcerer-quest from Galadriel and when I got to the sneaking part, three guards immediately ignored their original routes (the routes they had in 2.3.1) and started to advance in my starting position quite effectively cornering me. No biggie tho' since I could kill them all with repeated shots to the feet, but they didn't really have a reason to come after me as if I was already seen. The alarm level was 0 but they were just coming closer and closer.

Or are they just redone waypoints to make it a little harder?


edit.

The first time I encountered that bug, I was playing as an elf.
I tested it with a Rohirrim player just now and the sentries went to their normal routes (the ones I saw in 2.3.1) but I tested it with another elven character and the ork sentries followed me just like the first time I tried it with an elven character. So the Mirkwood Sorcerer-quest's sneak minigame is definitely bugged for the elven player.

The mirkwood one has always been a bit dodgy (thouigh the bug isnt based on race). Sometimes the animatronic guards jump the rails and just come at you... Ill get around to this one eventually.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: FleshyStarfish on September 21, 2007, 02:11:22 AM
Capture what?  Capturing 'noblemen' quests go away once the nobleman reaches his destination.  If it's a 'capture lieutenant/captain' then no, I think you have to spend influence.  Though if it's a lieutenant it's easy and if it's a captain just wait until you can do it and you'll get an ass-tonne of promotionish point stuff towards your next promo :).

It's the other kind, to capture 'n X blah blah'  in this case veteran riders of rohan.

And it's not that I can't accomplish the quest, it's that the quest won't complete. But I guess the answer is still the same.

Galnor,

Yesterday in playing as the Isengardians and found the same issue.  I had 2 veteran riders of rohan and went to Wormtongue to complete my quest.  As I went to speak with him, it didn't give me an option to turn in my prisoners.  I only had the 2 options of giving up my quest or saying that I was still working on it.  Eventually I decided to give up my quest and turn in some influence points.  This is definitely a bug.

Edit:  Besides my usual "dry" responses of bug reports and suggestions, I want to add to the already huge clamour of people praising AW for instigating this mod and for maintaining it.  I'm a die-hard (I mean really hard) fan of Tolkien and find this one of the most satisfying means of enjoying his story.  By constantly updating TLD and making it closer to the book, it seems as if the story that we all read goes from written words and out of our control, to alive pictures and something completely within our control (cheating changes the varying degree of our control of course).    :P

Back to killing Rohannites! :green:
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on September 21, 2007, 10:51:28 PM
Al'ight, I was taking a stroll around gondor with my couple dozen men and found a great host of gondor
(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2803/untitled20mw5.png)
apparently, they were looking for the lesser host of gondor

After following them for a while, thinking that they were going to attack their allies or something, they turned around as soon as they spotted the lesser host and started following this
(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2125/untitled21ig8.png)

 ???
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: weston on September 22, 2007, 03:29:43 AM
During the time that elapses while getting healed in Minas Tirith, I pressed "Character" and "Inventory" button. That caused me to get stuck - I remain in map mode, but have no party to ride around with. I tried saving and loading, thinking it was a temporary glitch, but as the saved game comes up, I'm faced with a screen only displaying the background of the map, no cities or anything. And still no party.. Can't go anywhere, or do anything. Only thing I can do is check my quests. Time lapses without me doing anything though. Solution?

hmm, dont press I and C during healing?  ;)  I dont have any control over the keys on the worldmap. The only custom scanning of the I key occurs in battle. It might be unrelated to your key presses and thus be another bug or it might be a vanilla issue with key presses at odd moments.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: danath on September 22, 2007, 04:04:12 PM
1- When using Rivendell Sword, you still have a sword in the sheath. (At least with chipped sword) Hey look, I have a bow, arrows, shield, sword... and another sword!

rivendell sword doesnt have a sheath yet. You are probably using rivendell armor, which has a decorative sheathed sword on the other hip. It doesnt do anything.

2- West-Emmet has disappeared  :shock: I was just taking some rest there and by the time the world map appeared the village wasn't there :( (Playing as elf, Gondor crushed and war on the North ended.)


3- I guess quests about Dol Guldur/Moria should disappear if they don't exist any more.

BTW, what do you mean by "credited for all enemy units destroyed" in elven final mission? If I can't finish it I get no prize :S I though it was going to work like "destroy enemy XXXX" that you finish whenever you want, get your reward, and when you ask for a mission Galadriel gives it to you again.

I dont think I got around to actually doing this..its probably non-functional at the moment.

And a suggestion, change the boots of Elven Infantery, Glorfindel, etc... those don't look very elvish, they look rusted (can't remember what boots are)


EDIT: looks like too many bugs stacked, now every time I go rest I have a CTD  :lol: So I decided to continue with the game playing as Gondor, and look what I get when it's loading
(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5522/dibujobp9.jpg)

You are trying to load a save into a different version of TLD.  Make sure you load tld from the "TLD" folder on the mod screen. The old mod folder was the "The_Last_Days". Im not sure how I changed it but.. The old man will tell you if its 2.4.

Almost every new version, patch or not, requires a new game.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on September 23, 2007, 09:14:14 PM
That new quest doesn't seem to work (don't wanna spoil anything so this is as clear as I'll be, unless you ask me to specify)

what new quest? no quests were added in the patch. from 2.3?




Destory [faction] quest, i checked up in the quest file ><!

Ah, Ill check if it works. It's been around since beta though. I believe there is a level minimum to get it (and they need to be right on the brink of falling).
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: slyspy on September 24, 2007, 06:02:25 AM
That new quest doesn't seem to work (don't wanna spoil anything so this is as clear as I'll be, unless you ask me to specify)

what new quest? no quests were added in the patch. from 2.3?




Destory [faction] quest, i checked up in the quest file ><!

That was in the previous version. I got it when I had Rohan on the ropes. It worked fine then.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: FleshyStarfish on September 24, 2007, 06:33:26 AM
As Isengard I got a mission to destroy Rohan.  I did.  Now I'm in the process of destroying Gondor.

I used to think that it was too hard to play as an orc.  Now I'm seeing that you totally wipe the slate clean with your human counterparts.  That's mainly because Mordor is so heavily overpowered.

Anyway, as an Isengarder, I'm really trying to employ as much Gondor infantry as possible (hiring them via the brigands).  They are absolutely awesome and my troops suck badly.  I think one of the most important things that you should do as an orc is invest heavily in training.

One thing that I'm wondering is why do I get heavily reduced income and experience whenever I turn in a quest.  For example, I had to destroy a great host.  So, I found the great host led by Prince Imrahil.  I destroyed it (with lots of help).  I received 1500 exp and 1500 denari vs. as a Rohannite/Gondorian I received 5000 exp and 5000 denari. 

FS
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Egoist XIV on September 24, 2007, 09:02:49 AM
I was playing TLD as an uruk-hai warrior and fighting a lesser mirkwood host, when the game froze and gave this error report:

(http://images5.pictiger.com/thumbs/73/7f8b389e0afa418914cc7afc1c6cca73.th.jpg) (http://server5.pictiger.com/img/1350918/computer-games-and-screenshots/m-b-error.php)
The options are in Finnish and mean something like Abort, Retry and Bypass. From left to right. I pressed Bypass and the screen went white and I had to use taskmanager to shut M&B down.

do you have the berserker trait? Any other unusual traits? Can you give me an idea of what units are in your army?

I had 15 uruk-hai berserkers. No traits.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: FleshyStarfish on September 25, 2007, 05:00:26 AM
I've got more of a question than a bug report.

I went into my "Native" rgl.log file where you can change the different type of ability points.  So for example, I changed my leadership from 5 to 25, allowing me to get an additional 25 troops each time I increase my party charm.  Then, I click on save.  Things are good so far.  Just to check my save, I go back in and check the file and find that it saved my 25 change.

Then, I start TLD and resume a saved game.  As soon as I use my character, I see that I still have the same amount of troops that I can hire, nothing has changed.  What happens then is that I exit the game and find that the rgl.log file (or maybe its log.rgl, can't remember) is back to 5.  In the last version of TLD, that change was automatically received within my saved game, so I didn't have to start a new game.  Does it mean with the update that I have to start a new game now?

That's above my ability to manipulate.  There are two TLD folders now though. 2.3 was "The Last Days", 2.4 is "TLD". Make sure you are using and manipulating the "TLD" folder. You can confirm the version now at the old man (who should say its 2.4 in his first speech).

I deleted the old 2.3 folder and the old man said 2.4.  I'll try to reinstall it again.  Thanks in any case.    :)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Juice on September 25, 2007, 06:10:17 AM
The bug which grands you influence when telling parties to follow you still excists. (I mean it when you tell a Great host of 150 men for example to follow you, you should lose 75 influence, but you gain that amount). I have tried at the following parties: Isengard scouts, Great host of isengar, lesser host of isengard, lesser host of dunlendings, mordor scouts, great/lesser host of mordor, mordor patrol, great/lesser host of lothlorien, great/lesser host of gondor, great/lesser host of rohan. Might be in all parties, but not sure since in 2.3 version it didn't work for mordor parties.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: bobsters35 on September 25, 2007, 05:03:31 PM
Im getting this bug with 2.4....


"Assertion failed:

Program:c:\program files\ Mount and Blade\ Mount and blade.exe

File:\Develop\Mb\rglstring.cpp



can someone help me please?

When does it happen? How far into the game are you? Any traits? What soldiers do you have? Any other details you can think of would be useful.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: bobsters35 on September 25, 2007, 07:57:21 PM
I cant even start a game

It gets to "launching game" comes up with the air and i cant ignore it i have to retry (crashes) or abort. For some reason im only having this problem in 2.4,2.3 worked perfectly but i dont have it any more :/

Turn your textures all the way down, d/l the low-res orc head pack (check the faq), then see what happens. Really there should be less of a texture load with this version.... but check this anyway after you try a reinstall. Beyond that I dont know.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: FleshyStarfish on September 26, 2007, 01:15:31 AM
I just wanted to make mention that for Isengard none of the missions where you have to deliver a troop type work (such as get 2 riders of rohan, 3 veteran squires of Gondor, etc.).  I haven't tried this with Mordor yet.

This is probably already mentioned, but just in case I'm posting it.

FS
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Boiled Ice on September 26, 2007, 05:00:47 AM
Quote
I just wanted to make mention that for Isengard none of the missions where you have to deliver a troop type work (such as get 2 riders of rohan, 3 veteran squires of Gondor, etc.).  I haven't tried this with Mordor yet.

This is probably already mentioned, but just in case I'm posting it.

FS

Same problem with me

Got a quest from the dude in the Uruk Hai Outpost to capture 4 vet squires of Gondor.  I captured them but when I go to complete the mission there's no option like "I've brought the captives" or what ever.

I'm playing as an Uruk Hai Archer.


Also, are traits bugged?  I couldn't get Brigand Champ or Fight Pits champ.  Havn't gotten any other traits like beserker or anything.  When I was playing 2.3.1 I got about 5 traits in the first 20 days.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: FleshyStarfish on September 26, 2007, 07:11:56 AM
Sarcasm makes the world go around.   ;)

However, I am curious to see if I'll get beserker, etc.  In my last game, it took me almost 60 to 70 days as an infantry captain to finally get beserker (as a Gondorian).  Fortunately its a little quicker as an Isengarder, but in essence, winning feels easier, since we're pummeling the free people from all sides.

FS

It is easier, you pretty much cant lose as Mordor. Playing Isengard though, youll have to fight mordor later.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Egoist XIV on September 27, 2007, 10:54:30 AM
Discovered 2 new ones.

At the brigand fort, i fought a gauntlet match. After some time, most enemies spawned outside the arena. I could kill them, but the match wouldn't end, no matter how much i killed. When i died and returned to the arena master he said something like You've beaten 325"(:shock:)our best, there's no shame in your loss. I fought alone, no traits.

the arena cant handle much more than 100 opponents before m&b spawn limits intrude. Make sure you are playing 2.4 as I was able to get the trait (and it stopped around 100) a few days ago. The old man will tell you the version number if you start a new game. Might be a tricky one that only appears at certain times.

And another, at the bandit king. I could endlessly say: "I have destroyed some goblins" and he gave me 25 denars. I might have killed two or three groups of goblins, but definitely not 20 8).

fixed for 2.4.1
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: FleshyStarfish on September 28, 2007, 01:54:10 AM
I was enjoying the money from killing my one unit of tribal orcs.... :(
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Boiled Ice on September 28, 2007, 03:50:59 PM
I was enjoying the money from killing my one unit of tribal orcs.... :(

If you complete the quest (kill 20 units) you get 500 denars every time you talk to Balin  :P
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on September 28, 2007, 09:01:07 PM
If you rescue Celeborn, Galadriel will give you 2k denars everytime you ask her for some  :green:
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Beleg Strongbow on September 28, 2007, 10:33:09 PM
She's really, really greatful! :green:
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on September 28, 2007, 11:19:19 PM
Bow chicka bowow  :lol:
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on October 05, 2007, 06:43:03 PM
Aiiight, double post, shun me T_T

the northmen recruited from the neutral villages (the ones located between rohan and lothlorien) have Rohan Battlecries.
I don't know if it's intended, but it certainly raised my eyebrows  :-\
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: MastaSpoofa on October 05, 2007, 07:00:15 PM
well, the Rohirrim did come from the northlands, so I'm sure they speak similar languages.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Balduran on October 06, 2007, 01:38:13 AM
I don't know why, but my game often crashes during nighttime in Mirkwood (At midnight to be exact)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on October 06, 2007, 12:44:49 PM
MastaSpoofa: they probably did, but I don't think northmen would be dedicating their victories to Theoden

Balduran: Training bug still there maybe?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: MastaSpoofa on October 06, 2007, 01:03:19 PM
Oh, yeah well I havent played with them in awhile so I didnt know they mentioned Theoden.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Balduran on October 06, 2007, 01:52:29 PM

Balduran: Training bug still there maybe?
Training bug? You mean the training skill thing? No, i don't even have it.
It seems to be connected with the Sorcerer quest from Galadriel.
To be exact - It ALWAYS crashed when i had it visible on the map screen, but when i scrolled somewhere else it was ok.
I thought it was the fault of the lack of lightning on the icon, but the game doesen't seems to mind the Hero Mound that also has no lightning/shading.
But i've completed the quest, and the game still crashes on some occasions.

Any ideas what can be wrong?

Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on October 06, 2007, 09:27:20 PM
You have....a bugged unit?  ???
Your horse is broken?
The Dol Guldur Sorceror conjured a magical barrier which DCs players to protect orcish lands?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Balduran on October 07, 2007, 06:01:21 AM
You have....a bugged unit?  ???
Your horse is broken?
The Dol Guldur Sorceror conjured a magical barrier which DCs players to protect orcish lands?
Probably all of the above  :P
But thankfully i'm now in Rohan and i don't have to worry anymore
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: ENSAIS on October 08, 2007, 04:17:04 PM
might be a bug--
AFTER getting the Elf-Friend trait for killing to sorc, much later I came back to elven lands as a Rohan warrior and was given a mission to free an elf hero from Isenguard... but Isenguard had looong since fallen.  Going to Isenguard only gives me the option to leave the city.l
Now earlier I had to rescue a Gondor hero from Mordor... which I did.   I tried to go to Mordor thinking maybe the Elf had zapped there instead because the Easterlings are Spent and Wavering, Mordor is Weak, and all other baddies are withdrawn.  At Mordor, also only get the option to leave the city... even at night.

is it a bug?  Seems odd that Isenguard took an elf hero after withdrawing..
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on October 08, 2007, 06:02:22 PM
The elven hero was probably taken some time ago. There should be a 'world event message' which lets you know (ie, _____was killed in battle, the might of ____ has diminished....) If a faction captures a hero, then falls, the hero can no longer be rescued. Just think that when the capital was crumbling, the dungeon he was held in collapsed on him ^^"
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Boiled Ice on October 09, 2007, 01:21:17 AM
I know it's not a bug but do you think it's possible to speed the script up to recognize that Morder/Isengard are now at war after the free people are destroyed?  I finished off Gondor but had to wait a couple of days before I was able to attack Morder units.  In the mean time my Great Host of Isengard had been gang banged but no less than 2 Legions and 3 Great hosts.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: FleshyStarfish on October 09, 2007, 06:26:52 AM
If you're careful enough, then you will also have Moria help you.  They're an awesome boost, especially getting "experienced" troops there.    ;)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Attila_The_Hun on October 09, 2007, 01:34:19 PM
Please Help Me This mod have a  BUG  :green:
(http://pic1.resimupload.com/r10/thumb_914777299.bmp) (http://www.resimupload.com/ds914777299_TLD_BUG.html)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: ENSAIS on October 09, 2007, 04:56:37 PM
The elven hero was probably taken some time ago. There should be a 'world event message' which lets you know (ie, _____was killed in battle, the might of ____ has diminished....) If a faction captures a hero, then falls, the hero can no longer be rescued. Just think that when the capital was crumbling, the dungeon he was held in collapsed on him ^^"
great, except that in the meantime I had first been given another mission (sorcerer), then repeatedly the "no mission"  dialogue, and finally an incompletable mission as Isenguard was long dead prior to any of the elven missions.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on October 09, 2007, 06:32:31 PM
Nothing there 0.o

Anyway, for the 'hunt down raiders' mission, I was able to collect my reward without me killing the raiders. I thought someone else took them out at first (common answer) about half a game day later, I found the raiders (purple font, I know I'm right) just waiting there. They still attack nearby units, so my enemy now has a bonus party  :-\
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Balduran on October 10, 2007, 09:38:05 AM
Just found a new one...
During a rescue mission in Minas Morgul, in the first sequence i could walk through quite some walls. There were mostly near the end of it (And gaved me acces to the tower behind the scene), but i guess there could be more.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Pulse-A on October 12, 2007, 05:03:15 PM
During the time that elapses while getting healed in Minas Tirith, I pressed "Character" and "Inventory" button. That caused me to get stuck - I remain in map mode, but have no party to ride around with. I tried saving and loading, thinking it was a temporary glitch, but as the saved game comes up, I'm faced with a screen only displaying the background of the map, no cities or anything. And still no party.. Can't go anywhere, or do anything. Only thing I can do is check my quests. Time lapses without me doing anything though. Solution?

I get the same thing too, except mine happens when I get my weekly influence. When i get the message saying that my influence has increased, my game jams in exactly the same way. It doesn't happen all the time though. Only occasionally, and especially when I'm near Minas Tirith.

might be something to do with the trait checks, which occur around then. Im assuming the healing message above is also related to that as it might involve time passing more than the actual healing.  Your location probably doesnt have so much to do with it. Post your save or send it to my inbox if you get a chance.

Edit: I reinstalled the game, and the problem seems to have disappeared. I think it was an installation glitch or something similar. Anyway, sorry for the trouble.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Boiled Ice on October 12, 2007, 10:31:57 PM
I just defeated the Legion of Ula (I think that's wrong, it's the one with horsemaster's of rhun), then I walked a while, saved and quite.  Now when I restart everythings fine until the sun rises and about half way through "Dawn" the game crashes, it just goes white, the only message I get is the option to send a report or not.

Should I send Ancient my save file?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: T_Rom on October 16, 2007, 10:26:29 AM
The rescue mission in Isengard is uber cool, but the orcs keep getting stuck at the doorways. A short solution would be to widen the doorways and perhaps the whole corridors. The orcs also seem to spot me through the walls. Is there a simple solution for that?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on October 16, 2007, 03:10:28 PM
Mount&Blade doesn't really have the most 'intelligent' AI troops, so I guess you'll have to deal with it until new AI commands can be implemented ><!
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 16, 2007, 07:14:00 PM
The rescue mission in Isengard is uber cool, but the orcs keep getting stuck at the doorways. A short solution would be to widen the doorways and perhaps the whole corridors. The orcs also seem to spot me through the walls. Is there a simple solution for that?

No solution for that, at least that I know of. I'm no AI expert, but it's obvious M&B AI wasn't designed for dealing with narrow spaces. We're pushing it beyond what it was made to do, so... no workaround for that, me thinks. In .89x the pathfinding AI looks to be improved (you can see that in sieges, although it's still on the clumsy side), so the AI may perform better in this kind of scenarios after the port.

Maybe your suggestions could improve things a bit... or maybe not.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: MastaSpoofa on October 16, 2007, 09:14:38 PM
actually its pretty freaky, listening to "The end of all Things" from the LOTR soundtrack, while its all eerie and then your walking around a corner and you get hit outa nowhere (1st person view of course) and you quickly turn around to see a pimply orc staring you in the face, with another orc behind him with a bow ready to shoot you, then the choir starts singing REALLY LOUDLY after like 1 min of quiet eerie music and you jump outa your chair and scream WTF?!
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Balduran on October 17, 2007, 12:24:08 PM
MastaSpoofa - Was THAT a bug report...?


I've just found a weird thing.... I'm playing as an elf, and Rohan has fallen some time ago, now i've stumbled across a Rohan Remnant, the bug part is that i had a dialog option "Surrender or die!" Like.... D'oh
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on October 21, 2007, 10:07:39 PM
Ulfas does that too ><!
run's in the rohirrim lineage xD
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Eugenioso on October 22, 2007, 11:07:27 PM
i have a problem with -suprise, suprise- Rohan. i have slaughtered both Dunland and Isengard, but the victory msg against isengard and dunland doesnt appear and there is no eohere! i even sought for 2 days both remnant forces of dunland and Isen and killed them and i still have nothing! after 2 weeks of fighting in lorien the elves won against dol guldur and moria and have gone south, but the rohiriim still wait in their city!?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on October 23, 2007, 05:09:44 PM
Rohan doesn't get a victory message for destorying Isengard and Dunland, since you need to kill off the forces of Mordor as well.
And the Eohere probably left while you weren't looking, or they weren't assembled yet, since I noticed that all hosts of Rohan return to Edoras once Isengard and Dunland falls before the Eohere arrive.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Eugenioso on October 24, 2007, 08:36:56 AM
Rohan doesn't get a victory message for destorying Isengard and Dunland, since you need to kill off the forces of Mordor as well.
And the Eohere probably left while you weren't looking, or they weren't assembled yet, since I noticed that all hosts of Rohan return to Edoras once Isengard and Dunland falls before the Eohere arrive.

the eohere is not there! this is TLD 2.4. so as far as i know, the Eohere will go to Minas Tirith in command of the heroes at edoras (including Theoden) but in my game they just stand around like idiots scouting their own territory. and there are no hosts or great hosts running around, only 1 patrol and about 5 scout groups. and dont blame rohan´s strenght, cause they are Strong, Gondor is Weakened and Rivendell is spent and wavering and lothlorien and mirkwood have beaten with my help the host of dol guldur and gone south.

both hosts and both patrols are needed to form the eohere. If that last patrol isnt heading into edoras there may be some kind of bug that is preventing it from heading over there.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 24, 2007, 12:13:51 PM
Sometimes it takes a while for hosts and patrols to get to Edoras to form the Eohere. They can be chasing/fighting other parties on the map , so they'll not head to Edoras while they're busy doing whatever they're doing. Once I had to clear the area of ALL enemies before they started moving to Edoras.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Merlkir on October 26, 2007, 06:54:53 AM
A friend of mine encountered a very strange bug. He installed TLD 2.4 on a clean 0.808, after character creation he appears on the map, he gets a message about influence and then his party icon disappears and the only accessible menu are Quests.

Has anyone experienced this one? What could it be?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Tepsu on October 26, 2007, 08:44:56 AM
A friend of mine encountered a very strange bug. He installed TLD 2.4 on a clean 0.808, after character creation he appears on the map, he gets a message about influence and then his party icon disappears and the only accessible menu are Quests.

Has anyone experienced this one? What could it be?

My TLD do that sometimes.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Egoist XIV on October 26, 2007, 12:13:23 PM
So, I was cutting thru a blood match in the Minas Morgul fighting pit. I fought alone. I had the orc pit&brigand arena champion traits. I was lvl 44 i think. I think I had killed more than half of the required 100 and I was just striking a large orc of mordor riding a warg when this error appeared:


(http://img4.pictiger.com/4ad/12878799_th.jpg) (http://img46187.pictiger.com/images/12878799/)
So I took a screenshot and minimized M&B and saved the screenshot in GIMP. Then I went back to M&B but the screen had gone blank white and there was this on my desktop when I again minimized M&B:

(http://img4.pictiger.com/163/12878801_th.jpg) (http://img46187.pictiger.com/images/12878801/)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on October 26, 2007, 04:38:14 PM
A friend of mine encountered a very strange bug. He installed TLD 2.4 on a clean 0.808, after character creation he appears on the map, he gets a message about influence and then his party icon disappears and the only accessible menu are Quests.

Has anyone experienced this one? What could it be?

Bug confirmed, happened to me once

anyway, when I was doing the quest to defeat the Mirkwood Sorceror a few days ago, I was fighting on the map with the bridge and I fought a 'temp character' or whatever. He was described to be wearing nothing except for the weird underpants and was bald. I took a screenshot, but I totally forgot about it :-[

And the rescue elven lord thing is still bugged. Once you complete the quest, you can always go back and complete it again.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Merlkir on October 27, 2007, 01:59:28 AM
- weird. The friend says it's ok now. He thinks it might have been something with the Old Man setting..
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on October 27, 2007, 11:49:32 AM
Did he reappear on the map, or start a new game?  :shock:
I started another game after that bug and it was fine, so that's an easy fix. Apparently, this bug doesn't seem to happen that often since no one reported it earlier.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Merlkir on October 27, 2007, 03:22:41 PM
Did he reappear on the map, or start a new game?  :shock:
I started another game after that bug and it was fine, so that's an easy fix. Apparently, this bug doesn't seem to happen that often since no one reported it earlier.

it seems new game fixed it.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: alemic on October 27, 2007, 08:03:28 PM
im getting that bug where my character just disappears but its only on my vista laptop. my laptop is better than my desktop, and when i play the mod on my desktop, i rarely ever get my party to disappear. and starting a new game does not help at all, it does it right when the old man is suppose to appear

any help?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on October 28, 2007, 07:39:25 AM
Uhh.....we were just talking about it.....

Anyway, if starting a new game doesn't help, I have no clue. Are you sure you were 'starting a new game' and not 'reloading'?

tip: breathe  :-\
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: alemic on October 28, 2007, 09:17:06 AM
i understand you where just talking about it but what worked for another person does not work for me, and yes i am positive im hitting new game and not reloading.

and what do you mean breathe? if i came of harsh i apologize i didnt mean to be rude or anything
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on October 28, 2007, 05:12:58 PM
Sorry about the breath thing, it's just that I'm slightly vision impaired and I can't see the difference between your periods and commas, so I read your post without pause ><! (gotta change the font on this thing comp....)

Anyway, try reinstaling the Mod. Not sure if it would work, but it's worth a try since not many people know about this bug...as far as I can tell  :-[
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: alemic on October 28, 2007, 07:34:46 PM
ive reinstalled it many times. if nobody can find a fix its not really the worst thing in the world to be honest. right now i just play .89x version on my laptop and TLD on my desktop

Odd one. Sounds like it happens at the beginning of the game and might be linked to either influence or the old man appearing... or the variable setup routine

It would be helpful if anyone who has it can detail the timing as closely as possible. For instance: 30 seconds after the influence message... Immediately on starting on map..... The timing might help me nail it down, if its possible to fix.

It would be easy to fix if I could get it myself and I cant even tell you how many characters ive started. It may be a system specific thing.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 28, 2007, 07:48:14 PM
Maybe it's not a bug, maybe it's a graphics card issue.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on October 28, 2007, 10:56:22 PM
What does the disappearance of a character icon have to do with graphic issues?  ???
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 29, 2007, 08:06:28 AM
What does the disappearance of a character icon have to do with graphic issues?  ???

Because that icon is a graphic? I'm not saying this is the case (probably not), but some reported bugs were actually graphics card/hardware problems.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: alemic on October 29, 2007, 09:04:23 AM
well he always disappears right after the influence comes up. ive tried not moving around and everything.

once it says "weekly influence 4/4" the character disappears.

currently im trying my own fix for the problem i will get back to you if it works
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: alemic on October 29, 2007, 10:53:26 AM
ok, sorry for the double post but i kinda wanted to do it this way so everbody knows that i found a fix for the problem.

if anybody else has the same problem, tell them to go to the options menu on the start up for TLD. make sure TLD is selected and select the Directx9 shadows. make sure that its selected. now start a new game and talk to the old man. if the graphics are all blue its ok. once you have talked to the old man save your game and exit. then go back to the options on the start up and deselect the Direct x9 shadows and start up the game. load your saved game and you should be good to go.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 29, 2007, 11:20:44 AM
Looks like it's graphics related after all.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: alemic on October 29, 2007, 07:05:25 PM
hmm never mind. it comes back whenever i get a weekly influence. so i dont think its a graphical error. any ideas?


so you are playing the game, get past the opening influence and then the next week you see it when you get influence? Or some later weekly influence payout? So Id like to know if its popping up at a later point in the game (well after starting) and if its still linked to the influence payout in that case as well.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: alemic on October 29, 2007, 08:43:50 PM
once again i apologize for double post but im not entirely sure how to respond to those comments :(

but its the very next week that im suppose to get my weekly influence. like i got it around day 10ish? maby a few days earlier/after

Yeah, thats what I wanted to know. So then your party vanishes..?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: alemic on October 30, 2007, 12:53:11 PM
yep it just vanishes. then everything besides the quest screen locks up. ive tried saving it and reloading at this point, but even when i come back my party is still gone.


also just wondering if there is some kind of bug with the elven city Glorfindel is in? it seems to crash at a lot of different points for me on my desktop with XP.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ancientwanker on October 30, 2007, 02:39:38 PM
yep it just vanishes. then everything besides the quest screen locks up. ive tried saving it and reloading at this point, but even when i come back my party is still gone.


also just wondering if there is some kind of bug with the elven city Glorfindel is in? it seems to crash at a lot of different points for me on my desktop with XP.

Ahh, thats interesting. Caras Galadhon tends to crash on lower spec machines. Its just too big (bunch of trees really, I just made it too big).  If you have the Caras Galadhon crash this vanishing party might be related to it. How much system memory and vid card memory do you have?

Also, what faction were you?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: alemic on October 30, 2007, 03:12:51 PM
well i figured out why the town was crashing. and thats because my computer was running way to many things. once you said that it was a larger town i just turned most of them off.

and the party disappearing is on my laptop which may not be near strong enough to run the mod. i can give u a dixdiag.
Time of this report: 10/30/2007, 17:11:18
       Machine name: WILL-PC
   Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_rtm.061101-2205)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
       System Model: Presario C500 (GF572UA#ABA)       
               BIOS: Ver 1.00PARTTBL
          Processor: Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2080  @ 1.73GHz (2 CPUs), ~1.7GHz
             Memory: 1014MB RAM
          Page File: 1319MB used, 962MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 6.00.6000.16386 32bit Unicode
  DxDiag Previously: Crashed in DirectShow (stage 1)

like i said, its not a good laptop at all so it may not be able to run it :)

and ignore the direct X crashing, that was me canceling it, my direct X is fine
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 30, 2007, 03:28:27 PM
I think you need at least 2GB of ram to run Vista, if you want it to be stable (I believe I read it somewhere). Anyway, this is probably hardware-related. Can you tell us the model and specs of your graphics card?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: alemic on October 30, 2007, 04:35:28 PM
well i got vista with the laptop.

but is this what your looking for:
  Card name: Mobile Intel(R) 945GM Express Chipset Family
     Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
        Chip type: Intel(R) GMA 950
         DAC type: Internal
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27A2&SUBSYS_30A5103C&REV_03
   Display Memory: 224 MB
 Dedicated Memory: 0 MB
    Shared Memory: 224 MB
     Current Mode: 1280 x 800 (32 bit) (59Hz)
          Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
      Driver Name: igdumd32.dll
   Driver Version: 7.14.0010.1187 (English)
      DDI Version: 9Ex
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 1/31/2007 12:36:02, 2269184 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B78E66-64E2-11CF-2F77-AF10A2C2CA35}
        Vendor ID: 0x8086
        Device ID: 0x27A2
        SubSys ID: 0x30A5103C
      Revision ID: 0x0003
      Revision ID: 0x0003
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C

Decoding the value of that is a little out of my league (beyond the memory).  My current best guess is that its a hardware (memory) shortage between the system and the vid card.  Doesnt make it true but Ill need to hear if the others with this problem are on the lower end of memory as well.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: alemic on October 30, 2007, 05:21:37 PM
so based off of your guess i should delete some programs?

Short of installing more memory, yeah, Id just make sure you shut down as many programs as possible in the task manager before you run the mod. Might help if memory is the problem.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 30, 2007, 08:46:10 PM
OK, now I know what's giving you problems. Your graphics card uses (shared) system memory, which is good enough for regular tasks, but very bad for games. I'm sure you'll have problems with any graphics-intensive game. M&B native isn't the most demanding game when it comes to graphics, but TLD is a tad heavier than native.

Shutting down any other programs might give you a small performance boost, but you'll probably still have problems running games on that machine.

Besides shutting down other programs, you can try lowering/disabling all graphics enhancements in M&B configuration panel. Change your game screen to 800x600 too, that should help.

You can also google for some info on how to improve your system (OS) performance. I think there's a good topic on Taleworlds about setting up Windows to give you better performance, search for it.

It's here: http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php/topic,13083.0.html
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: alemic on October 31, 2007, 01:25:35 PM
ah thanks for the help guys. ill work on it for a while, and if i can find a fix i will tell you guys just in case somebody else has the same problem
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 31, 2007, 02:07:47 PM
You're welcome ;)

Forgot to say you don't need to uninstall any programs, just shut down anything running in background before you launch M&B. It's safe to shut down any antivirus, anti-spyware and firewalls, if you disconnect from the internet before you do it (unplug the modem cable from your computer if you have to). Just remember to turn them up again before you connect to internet (you may want to place shortcuts to those programs on your desktop for easy access).
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Triglav on November 02, 2007, 08:16:58 AM
It's safe to shut down any antivirus, anti-spyware and firewalls,

[marketing mode]Except if you're using ESET Smart Security, which is so light it actually makes games run faster than if you had it turned off![/marketing mode]
 ;)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Tall Paul on November 02, 2007, 09:15:22 AM
Surely that is impossible.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on November 02, 2007, 09:24:40 AM
It's safe to shut down any antivirus, anti-spyware and firewalls,

[marketing mode]Except if you're using ESET Smart Security, which is so light it actually makes games run faster than if you had it turned off![/marketing mode]
 ;)

Also cures athlete's foot, and removes warts.  Contains 100% snake oil.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Tall Paul on November 02, 2007, 03:22:18 PM
Not sure if this has been reported before, so forgive me if it has.

I "hired" Elrohir and Elladan, but then they did not appear in my party. They were gone from the Rivendell Camp, too. There was no error message, and all 350 of the influence points had been deducted. Alt-F4 later, restored save game backup etc, I established that it was because I had no spare slots in my party. I don't mind that, but don't take away the influence or the elf-lords if I don't have room for them!

Did I read that in 0.89x there is no slot limitation anymore? That would fix this problem, I guess. One more reason I can't wait for 2.5
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on November 02, 2007, 05:09:50 PM
Not sure if this has been reported before, so forgive me if it has.

I "hired" Elrohir and Elladan, but then they did not appear in my party. They were gone from the Rivendell Camp, too. There was no error message, and all 350 of the influence points had been deducted. Alt-F4 later, restored save game backup etc, I established that it was because I had no spare slots in my party. I don't mind that, but don't take away the influence or the elf-lords if I don't have room for them!

Did I read that in 0.89x there is no slot limitation anymore? That would fix this problem, I guess. One more reason I can't wait for 2.5

Yeah, you must have have spare slots in your party. It's the same with rescue missions; make sure you have spare slots before you start them.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: alemic on November 02, 2007, 05:15:18 PM
yep and just a little suggestion, when you start a char enable to where you can quit without saving so you can just hit save before you try to spend any of your influence. that away if you or the game messes up, you can reload where you have your influence back.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ichimonji Hidetora on November 04, 2007, 08:19:38 PM
I have noticed that the "Dunlending Small Shield" had a size of 94 (or was it 90?), it should be more like size 30, it's a tiny shield and i keep hitting the shield when I'm aiming my arrows at the exposed legs.
I have noticed some other shields with similar problems, like some of the oval shaped greatshields, I have played the RCM version.

BTW, this is a great mod :)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on November 04, 2007, 10:37:18 PM
I have noticed that the "Dunlending Small Shield" had a size of 94 (or was it 90?), it should be more like size 30, it's a tiny shield and i keep hitting the shield when I'm aiming my arrows at the exposed legs.
I have noticed some other shields with similar problems, like some of the oval shaped greatshields, I have played the RCM version.

BTW, this is a great mod :)

I didn't really check shield sizes when I did the RCM conversion.  Any problems that were there before (and there were a few) very likely slipped by me.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ichimonji Hidetora on November 05, 2007, 12:53:57 PM
I can imagine why you missed it Ron, the item list if this mod is huge :o

:!: I had a serious script error after crushing Dol Guldur (or whatever it's name is) and Moria, I got the error report every half a second, making the game more or less unplayable.
The error was:  "SCRIPT ERROR ON OPCODE 20301: INVALID PARTY ID: 4613".
Then the Rivendell great host marched to Moria... weird ??? and then an Orc patrol and Orc scouting party spawned at Dol Guldur.
I Also noticed that the Rivendell great host was called a Lothlorien great host (i know it was a Rivendell great host because the commanders of the Rivendell camp were in it).

I had to laugh when the last Elven quest said something like: Straggling Tribal Orcs want you to march south to help the free people blah blah blah... (something like that) :lol: obviously it should have said lady Galadriel instead of Orcs, i have noticed some one else who posted about this problem as well.


good report, Ill check out that area and scripts that use that opcode (and the quest).  I think something is wrong with the new host management routine but I havent been in a bughunt mood lately.

But the host going to moria is normal after dg falls. And all elven leaders go to the lothlorien host. Just how it works for now.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ichimonji Hidetora on November 05, 2007, 01:38:32 PM
good report, Ill check out that area and scripts that use that opcode (and the quest).  I think something is wrong with the new host management routine but I havent been in a bughunt mood lately.

But the host going to moria is normal after dg falls. And all elven leaders go to the lothlorien host. Just how it works for now.

Thanks, i tried to be as informative as possible... i'm not sure if this has anything to do with what happened, but i changed one of the settings when i talked to the old man, i set the enemy to recover their forces (maybe it has something to do with the orcs of Dol Guldur coming back shortly after that faction was crushed?).

So the Elven great host should go to Moria? I once had Celeborn and his great host move to the Capital of Gondor instead of Moria, was that suppost to happen? ???

Yeah, it depends on whats happening in the war.

Just to make sure, this is version 2.4? (the old man will say if it is)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ichimonji Hidetora on November 05, 2007, 01:49:26 PM
Yeah, it depends on whats happening in the war.

Just to make sure, this is version 2.4? (the old man will say if it is)

Okay.
Yes it is 2.4, i have downloaded this mod just a couple of days ago, i don't have an older version of this mod.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: pagan on November 10, 2007, 07:27:03 AM
this is a wicked mod, but im having problems. ive had 5 battles and game crashed for 3 of them, not to desktop but the whole computer restarted. i think it has something to do with the sound, which doesnt play well, its crackly and stuttery.

i fight 200 Vs 200 battle on native without a glitch, but on TLD a 50 v 20 freezes continuously, then a longer freeze and bam, computer restarts. this is the first time im playing this mod, i reverted to 0.808 just to try it.

i have 0.894 under mount&blade folder. and 0.808 under mount&blade2 folder. could this be causing problems??

i have onin a ran and it runs fine as well as about 5-6 other mods i've been trying. none of them had anything like this happen... other then normal bugs within game.

any thoughts??? im spewing cause this mod is really great, heaps of work obviously went into it.


200v200 and then a problem with 50/20? heh. Most people dont have problems that severe. Im not sure what the problem might be.

The usual response is that its related to the number of textures as little else about battlefield is changed and the mesh issues are sorted for this round.

Play with a regular battlefield and see if it happens. Then slowly crank up the numbers until you have trouble. Also, turn down your graphics options. Even turning down screen res to 1024 or less can give you larger battles. 99% of the mod's size is additional textures and sound so its going to take more processing.

Also, .89x benefits from an LOD system that .808 mods dont have yet.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on November 10, 2007, 03:11:24 PM
Yep, you can have larger battles in .89x because of the new LOD system, but .808 doesn't have it. I would do as Ancientwanker told you.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: pagan on November 10, 2007, 09:10:11 PM
thanks for the help, i fiddled with settings, going all the way to 800/600 and everything off. (reeal fuzzy lol) and slowly increasing. i got all the way back to maxed as i had it and everything is fine. big battle not a problem.

then i noticed i hadn't re selected 1 option. 'enable varied sounds' as soon as i selected this, the sound began crackling again and everything slowed down....  soundcard drivers perhaps???? what exactly does this option do. how does it vary sounds, play them differntly or randomly??? either way, i doubt it is a must have feature lol. game runs sweet now.

this is a stunning mod. only thing that bugs me is that you can't move the map while your party walks, it keeps draging the screen back. hardly game breaking tho hehe cheers fellas  :green:
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on November 11, 2007, 12:55:48 AM
As far as I can tell, "Sound Variation" applies a modulation effect (sort of chorus/flanger) to the game sound output, which must surely have some sort of impact on performance. In .89x the effect was reduced and now is barely noticeable (sounds much better), but for .808 and TLD I suggest you keep it turned off; it doesn't sound good anyway.


Just to clarify:

"Sound Variation" doesn't affect in any way how many sounds you will hear in game or the order in which they are played, it's just an audio effect you can turn on or off.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Tepsu on November 28, 2007, 07:26:58 AM
In battle(Mirkwood lesser vs Dol Guldur lesser) i got RGL Error. it was something vertex stuff. 
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Kohlrabi on December 02, 2007, 07:44:13 AM
The mission text at the very last and final elf quest said "rivendell scout" instead of "Galadriel".
Title: Streng time VERY STRENG !!!
Post by: Forux on December 12, 2007, 04:18:20 AM
I HAVE CRITIAKL-DETH BAG !!!

HELP ME!!!!! :)


My story:

I am an elf, 15-lvl, have in the party 60-lvl-companion and few artifacts. I had same times c++ bag "something >0" and always ignored it. And at one "nice" day i destroy great and lesser force of Izengard + lesser force of Dun. at the same time. Went to Edoras to healing ( in travel destroyed few not very big patrols\scouts ). And that was happened - while i am healing in Edoras two events has come: 1. power off Izengard destroyed ( to strong from very strong ) and 2. week ended - i take influence, in the same time ( ggg :( ) and Edoras go out from the map, it hath fall to the hell, or Saruman tried to destroyed me for rehabilitation :), but the main topic is - i cant play - game crashed every time i try to move on the map :*( and i have saved game  ( yes i know that i am fool ).

Additional information:

1. I play on the hard configuration ( good ai etc.. )
2. I chose in old-man-menu only non-died modification for companions.
3. I have ring that increase influence-coming ( win it in  the quest that gives me by Galadriel, kill orc that thief her pawer )

HELP ME PLEASE - I REALY WONT TO PLAY THIS, THE BEST MOD ! :)

P.S. Excuse me for my poor EngIlscH
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Forux on December 12, 2007, 05:17:28 PM
Will yuo repair this bag ? Or my elf will crashing until the end of the Universe? (
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: alemic on December 12, 2007, 05:19:55 PM
give the admins time my friend. but also it might help if you give the specs of your computer.


but also this seems to be the same problem that i had on my laptop and many people told me that it was my RAM. This is assuming that you are crashing right after the influence shows up.


but the specs of your computer should help the admins/other members in fixing your problem
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ancientwanker on December 12, 2007, 06:57:36 PM
I think there is some kind of bug dealing with those influence modifying things like rings or perks, etc. Something about the weekly routine that checks for those.  I havent had any time for scripting or bug hunting lately but Ill take a look when I get back to it.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Senta on December 15, 2007, 03:09:55 PM
didn't see that reported, and even though it's nothing major might as well let you guys know. after rescuing the lord with a full party, he will go and wait in Eastfold Inn, however when i get there i have to talk to him twice in order to get him into my party. first dialogue is still a rescue one "here's a key" etc. after i go back to Eastfold for the second time, i get the proper dialogue line "it's about time..." and then he shows up in my party (after i made room for him, that is)

just reporting it, more than anything for anyone that doesn't try twIce and leaves Eastfold Inn without their rescued NPC hero.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Triglav on December 16, 2007, 08:45:37 AM
Could be only in my game, as I've been fooling around with scene objects, but in a new game as Rohan, I always get many flags at the battle inventory:

(http://www.petrov-petrov.si/%7Etriglav/M&B/bug.jpg)

...just in case maybe you ought check if it's not only in my game...
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ancientwanker on December 16, 2007, 09:30:00 AM
Yeah, they probably had their prop numbers changed when you were playing with props.  There was some wonkiness with the prop removal and addition commands so I used some odd work arounds.  It shouldnt happen in the official version.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Avenger on December 29, 2007, 02:25:35 PM
M&B 0.808 TLD 2.40

File: e:\develop\mb\program\src\party.h

Line: 632

Expression: m.number > 0

this comes always at midnight near Minas Morgul

I have wise man setting heroes cannot be captured on and Faramir got captured from a Great Host of Gondor..

Also all my heroes been captured by morgul when trying to free Faramir..

(now on I only use ithilien rangers as sneak companions...)

Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zandman on January 15, 2008, 01:00:17 PM
Definitely the best mod ever... and I think I've played them all.

Got a problem, though. Been playing 2.4. for the first time, and after about 160 days (Mordor has fallen), my game locks up and M&B crashes, every time I load my savegame. I've just beaten a lesser host of Dunlanders or something (assisted by a great host of Lothlorien), and *poof* - everything goes white and then to hell.
Does it have something to do with some kind of "you've won!" pop-up screen like the one in earlier versions, maybe? When exactly have you won the war? Is it something else entirely?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Mouzafphaerre on January 23, 2008, 06:52:08 AM
 
Game breaking bug: Stuck dialogue

Playing as an Uruk-hai of Isengard, I got the fall of Isengard message and went to the Dunlending camp to talk to the camp lieutenant. I chose the "How goes the war?" nod but the dialogue passed to my character asking "How goes the war?" and got stuck there. I had to hit Alt + F4 to force-terminate the game since there was no other choice.
 
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: ealabor on January 26, 2008, 07:28:15 PM
Bug report for 2.4 Vanilla:


Isengard: Capture X number of X type troops for quest not working - confirmed


Elves: Asking friendly Elven forces to follow me ADDS to influence. EDIT- seems to be all factions


Combat: I play larger battles 80 vs 80+ and there is an issue with the deployment zone. As the men are being deployed on either side of the battlefield and the line nears the edge of the map, the height at which units are loading into the map is increased so what you see further down the line is troops being dropped in from the air often resulting in damage or them getting knocked unconcious. In addition units on the extreme end are often dropped out of the deployment zone forcing unkillable units and resulting a need to retreat the battle once it is "won", which is a killer to influence gains of the bigger battles. Perhaps a solution would be to change the central starting position of the PC more to his left to allow a wider load zone or perhaps start addition rows of loading spots behind the PC.

I started playing M&B on the .89x model then on to the .90x model and i must say that contrary to opinion i find the battles to run smoother on the .808 platform. Not sure if this has to do with the smaller battlefield size of TLD or change to textures to the landscape, but this is the case. There are pros and cons to the .808 vs .90x models; .90x has larger maps which allows for more time to utilize position with infantry, but the battle video performance tends to become sluggish when fighting in forested areas or having alot of troops visible on screen. .89x - .90x also loads all the units before the start of the fight whereas .808 loads them while you are on the map. .808 is rather sluggish in that process, but once they are all loaded the battle runs smooth as silk which is what i prefer.

Tip: if you want a noticable jolt in performance in battles without taking too much out of experience, just remove the unit shadows.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: TwojWujek on February 13, 2008, 04:35:23 PM
"Rescue Celeborn from Minas Morgul" quest is bugged for me-when I get Celeborn to Galadriel I get the quest done however I the "do you have any tasks..." dialogue option the quest remains as if I had rescued him but had not reported back so I can click "I have rescued Celeborn multiple times and receive that 2500 gold over and over again( exp bonus for this quest I have recieved only the first time I reported the quest completed). The quest is stuck and I cannot get any other quests from her.

I was playing RCM, gondorian,
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Sabratha on March 02, 2008, 05:13:12 AM
The "kill mountain goblins" quest from the brigand fort is bugged. After killing a few mountain goblins packs I can come to the guy who gives the quest and receive the money over and over again.

I play as an Easterling.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Lord Thomas on March 03, 2008, 09:00:06 AM
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb298/ThomasVP/ErrorMB.jpg)


I have version .808 installed with TLD 2.4. Every time I try to run the game it gives this error. I haven't touched any of the files so I don't know what's causing the problem.

Does anyone else experienced the same problem or is it just me??
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Father Chains on March 03, 2008, 03:47:22 PM
Hmm. Dutch?

"Break off", "Open" and "Negroes"?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on March 04, 2008, 06:46:49 AM
Hmm. Dutch?

"Break off", "Open" and "Negroes"?

That's "abort" "continue" or "ignore".

"Negroes"?  ::)  ... where do you get this stuff, anyway?

Sure never seen that bug before, though. "<= string length"? Never even seen it reported before.  That might be a first in M&B modding.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Father Chains on March 04, 2008, 08:47:35 AM
'Neger' is negro in Norwegian, and '-en' is a German plural ending, so I figured it was reasonable :P
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Merlkir on March 04, 2008, 08:55:50 AM
it's a new feature we've put in TLD, by pressing that button you support the black people all over the world.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on March 04, 2008, 09:11:16 AM
it's a new feature we've put in TLD, by pressing that button you support the black people all over the world.

You mean darker-skin-tone humans?  Or the orcs of Mordor?
(Since Tolkien used the classic literary device of associating dark colors with evil, the question is valid.)


But seriously, that is a really strange bug.  Man, what's your operating system and machine specs?  (That's going to be AW's next question - I might as well go ahead and ask it.)

Because I've sure never seen that one before - not on any mod, on any version, anywhere.  And it certainly should not appear on an unmodified version of TLD, which works fine for most people.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Lord Thomas on March 04, 2008, 09:32:07 AM
This is the only mod I'm not able to play, so my system specs should be alright, Windows XP 3.4 Ghz, 1GB RAM should do the trick.

There did came an rgl log when i looked back into the files after the crash. It said something about missing objects. I'll post it:

Starting new log file.
 Module_name =  TLD_DEV
 Setting Map Min X =  -77.000000
 Setting Map Max X =  70.000000
 Setting Map Min Y =  -200.000000
 Setting Map Max Y =  70.000000
 Num Hints =  8
 Setting Time Multiplier =  0.150000
 Setting Seeing Range Multiplier =  6.500000
 Setting Track Spotting Multiplier =  0.800000
 Setting Blood Multiplier =  2.000000
 Setting Skill Prisoner Management Bonus =  5
 Setting Skill Leadership Bonus =  5
 Setting Base Companion Limit =  5
 Scan Module Textures =  1
 Scan Module Sounds =  1
 Loading Resource  textures_face_gen
 Loading Resource  shaders
 Loading Resource  textures
 Loading Resource  materials
 Loading Resource  materials_face_gen
 Loading Resource  uimeshes
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 Loading Resource  map_tree_meshes
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 Loading Module Resource  meshes_skybox
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 Loading Resource  skeletons
 Loading Resource  tree_meshes
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 Loading Resource  plant_meshes
 Loading Module Resource  tld_orc_body_materials
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Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on March 04, 2008, 10:32:01 AM
That sounds like a bad install.  Have you tried re-downloading and re-installing the mod?

That's a good place to start.  At least it will eliminate one possibility.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Merlkir on March 04, 2008, 01:33:17 PM
I would suggest that as well. "Hello, IT, have you tried turning it off and on again?" - IT crowd ;) right spot on as usual.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ancientwanker on March 04, 2008, 01:38:39 PM
Look at that nasty list of resources. Its better now but seeing that makes me want to optimize further.

Its either a bad d/l or bad install as suggested.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Lord Thomas on March 05, 2008, 11:51:12 AM
I have downloaded it again. Installed it again. Still the same error. I am out of idea's.....
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on March 05, 2008, 02:03:53 PM
Are you absolutely sure TLD is in the .808 folder and that you're launching it from the .808 .exe file?

If all is fine, I would try turning off/bringing down all the graphic stuff and disabling Sound Variation, just to see if TLD starts.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on March 05, 2008, 11:37:25 PM
There is absolutely no logical reason why it would be unable to find certain materials entries.  That just can't happen.

There were no bizarre characters in those names or anything, that should cause them not to read.
It makes no sense.


One thought ... materials are attached to shaders.  DX7 or DX9 shaders?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Lord Thomas on March 06, 2008, 10:42:31 AM
I've tried it with turning all graphics off and with both DX7 and DX9 and still it doesn't work ??? And yes I'm absolutely sure I'm running with .808
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on March 06, 2008, 03:28:22 PM
I think it's hardware-related. The current TLD version is heavy on graphics (even while loading the mod), and some systems just can't handle it. A laptop with a system-shared video memory card will have problems loading all the stuff in TLD.

Lord Thomas, please post your system specs, including graphics card (very important) model and brand, and graphics card memory. And is it a laptop or a desktop model?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Lord Thomas on March 07, 2008, 02:36:14 PM
Well I have a Desktop model, Pentium 4  3,4 Ghz 1GB RAM
Videocard is an ATI Radeon 9550 256MB with an ASUS motherboard
I have no problems with graphics or lag in other mods. I've tried to play TLD with every graphic aspect turned off or very low in the configure menu an in-game menu

Btw, I really appreciate all your help in this matter, I wish I could play TLD it looks very promising
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ancientwanker on March 07, 2008, 02:52:53 PM
Hmm, well, in the next few weeks there will be another .808 put out (yeah, this time for real) with lower system requirments (slightly).  That may solve the problem if its related to your system memory.  Your graphics card seems fine. Your system memory might be a concern if you have many other things running. Ive heard that .808 tld requires in the range of 750mb (almost all from the texture load).

One last hail mary might be shutting down every non-essential process or application before running it.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ollieh on March 07, 2008, 03:01:47 PM
Hmm, well, in the next few weeks there will be another .808 put out (yeah, this time for real) with lower system requirments (slightly).
Hurray for this!
Although, I can't wait for the archer fixes in .890 and up as they would change gameplay dramatically. Yeah, I know that converting now would be stupid as the final Native version should be coming out in May, with even further improvements.

Seems like the wrong place to ask, but anyone care to tell whats new other than bug fixes in the next v. .808?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Lord Thomas on March 07, 2008, 03:13:27 PM
Quote
One last hail mary might be shutting down every non-essential process or application before running it.

Thats's the first thing I do when the comp is started ;)

I'll just have to wait for the next version then. :(
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ancientwanker on March 07, 2008, 05:06:18 PM
No gameplay changes. It's just prettier and more efficient. Just a  pitstop on the way to the port but it may help some.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on March 07, 2008, 07:00:00 PM
No gameplay changes. It's just prettier and more efficient. Just a  pitstop on the way to the port but it may help some.

Might want to make a few gameplay changes, and, at least for testing purposes, see if we can flatten out the disparity between troop quality for humans and orcs.  While human troops should have some advantages, it's too strong now.  (I gave the orcs about a 4 point bonus in the old man menu, and got it to play pretty good - so we're off by about one level in the upgrade tree... that is, human parties are composed of troops one grade better than reasonable.)

(Of course, I'm talking RCM version.  In the native model, the player just kills everything solo and it doesn't matter if you have troops or not.)

Also could use either somewhat increased loot, or make it variable in the starting "old man" menu.  RCM version was quite impossible on the loot that was being offered, without cheating (using the "get paid repeatedly for the same pack of mountain goblins" bug, or some such).  You couldn't even scrape up cash to replace your casualties.  Tough to start out is one thing ... impossible is another.

Those really need to be changed, at least to see how it plays... even if the more complete party recomposition projects aren't implemented until the next version.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Dain Ironfoot on March 07, 2008, 07:27:27 PM
I personally find my early parties of gondor youths easily get slaughtered by all comers..
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on March 07, 2008, 08:04:56 PM
I personally find my early parties of gondor youths easily get slaughtered by all comers..

Hardly a test.  But note that the AI never fields a party of youths.  Or regulars.  Everything in the Gondor/Rohan AI parties is always like "Elite Knight of the Citadel Guard" or some such, even if they're just guarding a stupid caravan.  And while it is within the lore that humans would reach much higher levels of skill, discipline, and equipment quality than the orcs, it is unreasonable that everybody is such.  This disparity goes beyond early parties of low-end guys ... it makes the on-screen combat substantially easier for Gondor/Rohan players and effectively impossible for orcs in the later stages (which is not really the way it was supposed to be going).

A major party rebalance is scheduled for the next major version, to correct this as much as possible.  However, the suggestion here is that minor changes be made even on a short-term patch. 
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Dain Ironfoot on March 07, 2008, 08:45:21 PM
Well I haven't played TLD in a while, having only fiddled with the art in the dev version.. but I do remember it being tough starting out.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: ferasalqursan on April 02, 2008, 10:38:36 PM
I had the same exact problem as Lord Thomas.  What I ended up doing was completely deleting all M&B files and Mods of my hard drive, then redownloading and reinstalling .808 and TLD ONLY.  I'm 99% certain it's not a hardware issue because I have a pretty decent set-up and I was getting literally the same error.  Make sure you delete the M&B folder that remains even after the uninstall. 

Hardware:
CPU: AMD Anthlon 5200+ Dual Core
RAM: 2 gigs
OS: XP 64-bit
Video Card: Nvidia 7950 GT x 2 SLI configured
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Kolaris on April 03, 2008, 06:30:03 PM
I'm pretty sure this will be an install related issue, but it seems like I did everything correctly...

Anyway, I can start a character just fine, but after traveling around for about a minute I'm approached by The Old Man. Except...instead, his image is like some demonic vortex to the warp and I get a CTD  :o

I can clearly see he says I have version 2.4 though.

I have version .808 installed in a subfolder in my main Mount and Blade folder. Is this the problem? TLD is naturally installed within that.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on April 03, 2008, 07:05:41 PM

I have version .808 installed in a subfolder in my main Mount and Blade folder. Is this the problem? TLD is naturally installed within that.

That can be your problem. M&B .808 should be installed on a folder OUT of any other M&B folder, otherwise it doesn't surprise me if it gets messy...

Take a look at my M&B folders :P They all work just fine, heh.

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/723/mbfoldershi2.jpg)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Kolaris on April 03, 2008, 07:40:34 PM
Well I moved .808 out of there to its own nice little folder, but I'm still getting the same error.  :-\

Thanks for trying though

EDIT: Alright I fooled around a bit, and I managed to spawn somewhere where I could make it into a town before the Old Man shows up. Apparently, whenever I talk to someone their character dissapears. Or rather, they don't show up in the little picture box during dialogue.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ollieh on April 04, 2008, 12:34:38 AM
Hmm, well, in the next few weeks there will be another .808 put out (yeah, this time for real) with lower system requirments (slightly).  That may solve the problem if its related to your system memory.  Your graphics card seems fine. Your system memory might be a concern if you have many other things running. Ive heard that .808 tld requires in the range of 750mb (almost all from the texture load).
It has been pretty quiet lately. How is progress? Nearing pitstop?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: FleshyStarfish on April 04, 2008, 02:08:49 AM
Kolaris,

Here is what I suggest (and what I have).  Have one folder as Mount and Blade and one as Mount and Blade 2.  Put the newest version in one and .808 in another.  I play TLD regularly while sometimes going back to a .903 mod (such as Legions or Town Troops, etc.).  This has worked fine for me.

One thing I do recommend, however is to install .808 first, then TLD.  Then, install .903 in the other folder.  It will work fine if you do it like this.

FS
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Kolaris on April 04, 2008, 11:44:53 AM
Well I uninstalled all forms of M&B and reinstalled .808 and TLD only, and I'm still getting the same error... :-\

Its that C++ runtime thing with the vectors > 0 or something other people have had but nothing they did has worked so far.

EDIT: OH Vista, how you manage to be the source of all these problems I'll never know...I just needed to run the program as an administrator. Fixed everything after all  :-[
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on April 08, 2008, 08:32:48 PM
Minor error that's probably been pointed out before...
The Old Man at the beginning of the game says "Iron Skill" instead of "Iron Skin" when you change the stats for PCs

------------------------------

Merchant in Dol Amroth (I think) sells 'smoked ale' for a cheaper price....
If it's not Dol Amroth, check Tarnost ><!
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Father Chains on April 09, 2008, 11:58:55 AM
It shuts its mouth, Zenos, the smoked ale is awesome :P
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on April 10, 2008, 10:21:15 PM
The merchant in Lossarnach thinks she lives in Edoras... might be because merchants are duplicated thought TLD to accomodate all the citys ><!

High Captains of Mordor seem to switch their equipment preferrences...
like....in different engagements, the same captain rotates from mounted and dismount, or equiping spears on fight and a sword in the next.
Increases realism, but this really throws me off when I'm trying to narrow him down ><!

-------------------

(really minor inconveniece (bug))
merchant in Pelagir says I can buy spice from them and make a profit in....where ever....
he/she lied =/

-------------------

Are Rohan Riders really supposed to have gondorian coursers? ><!

-------------------

I report a lot of minor bugs....hate me =/
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: jawwwwsh on April 17, 2008, 06:12:03 AM
hi, i am rather new to M&B, but utterly hooked, and TLD is amazing :)
anyway, i found a rather annoying bug, my game has semi-frozen, i was near minas tirith and i sent my troops to ride to edoras, but just after i did that the screen locked itself firmly in position just south of minas tirith, the game is still playing, and my troops have walked off the screen, i cannot enter the inventory screen, the party screen or the character screen, but i CAN enter the quest screen, my troops have run out of food, the game is still running, but i cant do anything, i cant even get to the character screen to export my level 45 character and start again, someone help me!!
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Zenosknight on April 17, 2008, 05:14:57 PM
You're new to Mount&Blade and have a level 45 character...?
What's your secret? ><!

Anywho, after rescuing Eowine from the dungeons of Isengard, I returned to Edoras to collect my reward for the "Rescue Rohan Lord" quest. Although, I cannot complete the quest, but I can still collect rewards for having 'completed the quest'. I've rescued other lords from Isengard already and it worked fine. I don't know why it wouldn't work this time. =/
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: woorst on April 18, 2008, 06:50:04 AM
Hi everyone!

I am experiencing two C++ Assertion Errors on trying to begin conversations in some cases.

(http://img243.imagevenue.com/loc14/th_22015_assertion_2_122_14lo.jpg) (http://img243.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=22015_assertion_2_122_14lo.jpg)

(http://img193.imagevenue.com/loc155/th_21032_assertion_1_122_155lo.jpg) (http://img193.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=21032_assertion_1_122_155lo.jpg)

I always get these errors in this order. If choosing to Ignore (by clicking the appropriate button), the errors just repeat (again in this order: first, second, first, ...).
I run TLD version 2.4 on a fresh install of M&B 0.808 under Windows Vista Home Premium (Run as administrator).
The errors seem to occur everytime when talking to someone in an elven town, though I have only checked talking to some people in Caras Galadhon and Cerin Dolen repeatedly, creating fresh characters for that purpose. It does not matter if my race is man or elf.
I had this errors occur elsewhere also, though not as reproducible. One time I got it playing a Warg Rider after I helped in a battle of lesser host of Mordor + Mordor Patrol against lesser host of Rohan, when I tried talking to the orc hero (the Isengard one) from the party screen. After reloading that game (before the fight) and fighting again, I noticed him having vanished from my party... Unfortunately I did only notice this after saving, so I couldn't try to find out how that happened.

I tried redownloading and reinstalling both M&B and TLD and disabled antivirus software, nothing of which helped.
I would be happy to share more information or try things out, I just do not know what could be helpful (so tell me :) ).

EDIT: I just noticed this error is not TLD-specific, as I just got it when trying to talk to the slave trader in Zendar in vanilla. So it's likely it has to do something with my system. Nevertheless I would appreciate any advice since I have no clue what I could have done wrong.

EDIT 2: I just discovered the errors cease to appear when activating RCM (which I really like so far  :D), so they have to be connected to some item(s) if I understand correctly. Anyway many thanks for trying to help, DaBlade.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on April 19, 2008, 11:47:54 AM
Hi woorst.

Don't know what that could be, maybe it has something to do with your system specs?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: woorst on April 19, 2008, 02:27:26 PM
My system specifications:

AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core
4 GB RAM
GeForce 8600GT
Onboard Sound (Realtek)
Windows Vista Home Premium (32 bit)

Could it matter that M&B is not installed on the system partition?
The error also does not seem to occur at all when playing TLD on the evil side (Isengard, Mordor), though there are display glitches in some conversations (flickering, missing character models and some kind of "tunnel" image)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: JaChu on April 20, 2008, 03:45:08 AM
I don't know if it was posted before ,but at the start while talking with the old man i've chosen the max. number of legions of mordor to spawn ,but now after i've ended the war in the north ,crushed isengard and dunleadings still none of them were spawned. What can i do to fix it? I want to fight with them so much :( [ sorry for any errors english isn't my native language ]
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on April 20, 2008, 08:29:06 AM
My system specifications:

AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core
4 GB RAM
GeForce 8600GT
Onboard Sound (Realtek)
Windows Vista Home Premium (32 bit)

Looks good, although Vista 32 bit doesn't perform as good as XP (that's what the reviews say, I haven't tried Vista yet).



Could it matter that M&B is not installed on the system partition?


I really don't think so. I never had M&B installed on the system partition and never had any kind of problems.


The error also does not seem to occur at all when playing TLD on the evil side (Isengard, Mordor), though there are display glitches in some conversations (flickering, missing character models and some kind of "tunnel" image)


I don't think this has anything to do with any TLD bug, it must be something else. If you read the posts in this thread, you can see the majority of the problems are system-related, we know the mod has bugs but none of them prevent you from playing it. If you already tried the most common procedures (look around you haven't done it yet) I don't know what else you should do. Sorry for not being able to help you further.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Tree_then on May 14, 2008, 08:58:51 PM
Hey I was just wondering, does anyone know any reasons why M&B version .808 won't work on my computer when .903 and .951 work perfectly. Vanilla  .808 doesn't work when it starts to load when I get into fights, same with TLD.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on May 15, 2008, 10:22:12 AM
Hey I was just wondering, does anyone know any reasons why M&B version .808 won't work on my computer when .903 and .951 work perfectly. Vanilla  .808 doesn't work when it starts to load when I get into fights, same with TLD.

My guess is something went wrong while installing .808.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Senran on May 18, 2008, 02:00:17 PM
I've been having a problem with weekly influnce...
Sometimes when the weekly influence message comes up, my party's icon on the map disappears, or the icon for the town I'm in disappears.
Has anyone had similair problems? 
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: L3ggy on June 08, 2008, 08:49:10 AM
I had that problem when i was playing as a Ranger of Ithilien, so i made a new game, and deleted that save, i had an über army :'(
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Night Ninja on June 09, 2008, 12:29:02 AM
I've got this problem: whenever I run TLD, my screen starts to switch between a black screen and the main map very quickly, and I can't do anything during that time. I need to spam the 'ESC' button to get it to the main menu and resume a game; at that point it usually stops. It also tends to occur after I've left a city or a battle, and randomly occurs after I speak to merchants/people.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on June 09, 2008, 10:14:23 AM
I've got this problem: whenever I run TLD, my screen starts to switch between a black screen and the main map very quickly, and I can't do anything during that time. I need to spam the 'ESC' button to get it to the main menu and resume a game; at that point it usually stops. It also tends to occur after I've left a city or a battle, and randomly occurs after I speak to merchants/people.

Sounds like some graphics card problem. Post your computer specs, so maybe we can sort it out.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Night Ninja on June 09, 2008, 11:03:37 PM
I'm running an Acer TravelMate 4280 with an Intel Core 2 CPU (each 2.0Ghz) with 2 gigs of ram. I have a GeForce Go 7600 graphics card with (I think) 128 megs of dedicated memory and 700+ meg of some 'Hypermemory' thing.

Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on June 09, 2008, 11:28:17 PM
More specifically ... yeah, it sounds like a system problem, so give your system a once-over:

Check for virus/malware problems.
Check hard disks for errors (and defrag them, wouldn't hurt).
Make sure you have the latest graphics drivers.  Download and re-install them, even if you think you have the current ones.
Get the latest version of DirectX.  (There were some bugged versions floating around not long back.)

Then see if the problem is still there.  Either one of these steps will fix it, or it will eliminate a number of possibilities and make finding a solution somewhat easier.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Smirnoff on June 10, 2008, 07:00:51 AM
Above is good advice, sounds like a graphics driver or settings problem, though it could be a graphics hardware failure.

You might want to think on replacing the graphics card to, the 7600 were never much good, if you can afford it get a GeForce 8800 GT £85-100 or if your really strapped for cash get an 8600 for about £65 (though it's a huge performance drop for a saving of £20), 256mb cards are fine, 512mb is a waste unless you play at very high resolutions (beyond 1280x1024).  The 8800GT are the biggest bargain in graphics card history, they are faster than many of the more expensive cards as the are built with the new GeForce 9000 GPUs.  Also consider getting 2GB of RAM for gaming with, speeds are pretty irrelevent, by by price.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on June 10, 2008, 07:38:46 AM
Above is good advice, sounds like a graphics driver or settings problem, though it could be a graphics hardware failure.

You might want to think on replacing the graphics card to, the 7600 were never much good, if you can afford it get a GeForce 8800 GT £85-100 or if your really strapped for cash get an 8600 for about £65 (though it's a huge performance drop for a saving of £20), 256mb cards are fine, 512mb is a waste unless you play at very high resolutions (beyond 1280x1024).  The 8800GT are the biggest bargain in graphics card history, they are faster than many of the more expensive cards as the are built with the new GeForce 9000 GPUs.  Also consider getting 2GB of RAM for gaming with, speeds are pretty irrelevent, by by price.

Heck, a lot of us are running on older cards than that, and there must be 9 million of those 7600 cards out there ... unless something is actually burned out on the card, you should be able to get it to work.  (i.e. I somehow doubt that's the problem.)

I mean, not-so-great equipment will sometimes force you to run lower resolutions to keep the frame rate up, sure ... but it shouldn't cause total crashes unless something else is wrong.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on June 10, 2008, 10:57:34 AM
I'm running an Acer TravelMate 4280 with an Intel Core 2 CPU (each 2.0Ghz) with 2 gigs of ram. I have a GeForce Go 7600 graphics card with (I think) 128 megs of dedicated memory and 700+ meg of some 'Hypermemory' thing.



I think it's you graphics card. TLD is probably a tad heavier on graphics than it can chew. Check this out:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-Go-7600.2144.0.html

Try lowering the graphics options, and see if it works better for you.

Also follow Ron's suggestions, just to make sure everything is working as expected.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Night Ninja on June 10, 2008, 10:42:18 PM
I dunno, but some time back, I could have sworn I smelled something burning while playing M&B...

I'll try lowering the graphics options. Thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on June 10, 2008, 10:52:36 PM
I dunno, but some time back, I could have sworn I smelled something burning while playing M&B...

I'll try lowering the graphics options. Thanks for the advice.

Computer parts do sometimes burn out.  You might want to try looking at the card, and smelling it ... if you see black marks or smell electrical fire, well, that might be because something has been on fire.  In that case, you really should replace the part ASAP, before it shorts out and burns down more stuff.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: xanhou on June 27, 2008, 07:00:45 AM
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb298/ThomasVP/ErrorMB.jpg)


I have version .808 installed with TLD 2.4. Every time I try to run the game it gives this error. I haven't touched any of the files so I don't know what's causing the problem.

Does anyone else experienced the same problem or is it just me??

I did not only had the same problem but i found a simple solution! je gebruikt vista. go to properties of your mountandblade.exe of 0.808 and set it to be competable with  windows xp.

Ik haat vista met je mee...
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on June 27, 2008, 07:10:43 AM
Boy, now there's a switch ... somebody who finds solutions.

Very nice.

All of the saps who had Windows Vista foisted upon them will be happy to hear that.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on June 27, 2008, 04:02:20 PM
Thanks, xanhou :)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: skutatos on August 03, 2008, 02:04:04 PM
Has anyone found a solution for the party disappearance after the influence report? Its happened to me with every game I've started.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: alemic on August 04, 2008, 07:09:04 PM
i have the same problem. im pretty sure they said it was graphics related. because i use to be able to play the game on my old desktop until it crashed. and sadly, my laptop can not run TLD. So im stuck with the native
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Strategyman on August 07, 2008, 10:36:33 AM
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb298/ThomasVP/ErrorMB.jpg)


I have version .808 installed with TLD 2.4. Every time I try to run the game it gives this error. I haven't touched any of the files so I don't know what's causing the problem.

Does anyone else experienced the same problem or is it just me??

I did not only had the same problem but i found a simple solution! je gebruikt vista. go to properties of your mountandblade.exe of 0.808 and set it to be competable with  windows xp.

Ik haat vista met je mee...
how do you do that elaborate please
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on August 07, 2008, 10:47:10 AM
What?  Take a screenshot?  Try [ctrl] [alt] [print screen] to copy it to the Windows clipboard, and then paste it to an image file in Photoshop or some other drawing program.

If you mean setting compatibility ... on the icon to launch M&B, right click, select properties, you should find "compatibility mode" under that heading.  At least that's the sequence in XP ... I guess Vista hasn't changed that part.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 05, 2008, 05:41:01 AM
I'm getting a visual c++ error like the guy on the first post of this page,but I can't set M&B's compactibility to Windows XP cause it's not on the list,any other ways to solve it?
EDIT:Yes,I do have Windows XP :P
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 09, 2008, 12:24:30 PM
I don't want to rush you guys or anything,but I'm really dying to play this mod,could someone please answer my error?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 09, 2008, 04:38:09 PM
I thought your problem was solved already. So, let me see if I got it right, are you using Vista?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 10, 2008, 03:01:04 AM
Nope,XP.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: FleshyStarfish on October 10, 2008, 05:03:38 AM
CrotchTrooper,

Wow!  Its been quite some time that I haven't seen someone post here.  Keep 'em coming...that way there's more going on here.    ;)

FS
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 10, 2008, 05:16:56 AM
Nope,XP.

In that case you obviously don't need to set it to be compatible with XP. Are you getting exactly the same error?


CrotchTrooper,

Wow!  Its been quite some time that I haven't seen someone post here.  Keep 'em coming...that way there's more going on here.    ;)

FS

There are plenty of things going on here, just not in the public area... yet ;)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 10, 2008, 12:56:25 PM
Exactly the same error!


...and it's CROtrooper : p
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: greater good on October 10, 2008, 01:01:50 PM
lol :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Oroonin on October 10, 2008, 01:29:14 PM
Sometimes the camp lieutanent in emyn arnen gives you isengard missions, like kill Duessa(!). Guess he´s placed as uruk-hai?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Oroonin on October 10, 2008, 01:31:40 PM
and about the "asserion failed", I get those too, often when it´s time to upgrade troops, but it´s never failed so far to simply ignore it.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Triglav on October 10, 2008, 02:02:01 PM
CrotchTrooper,


:) LOL

CrotchTrooper does sound better though.

Something manly about "CrotchTrooper riding to victory!"
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 10, 2008, 02:25:20 PM
Haha,lol,crotchtrooper(but Cro stands for Croatia,meh,there is cro in crotchtrooper anyway,crotchtrooper it is then lol)

Uhm...back to the point <.<
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Triglav on October 10, 2008, 03:39:07 PM
Well done.
Tako i treba ;)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 10, 2008, 05:16:58 PM
Oho,ima nas svuda! :D

Can someone answer my error to complete it now? :p
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 10, 2008, 05:30:16 PM
Oho,ima nas svuda! :D

Can someone answer my error to complete it now? :p

I'd say uninstall, delete any remaining files and reinstall the whole thing (both M&B .808 and TLD) allover again; that solved the problems for some people already. Let us know if it worked.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 10, 2008, 05:31:22 PM
Alright,I'll get right on it,I'll let you know the result in a few.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 10, 2008, 06:07:46 PM
Did as you said,but...the error isn't gone,hell,I just really ain't destined to play TLD or what : (
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 10, 2008, 06:16:09 PM
Post you comp specs (processor, RAM, graphics card), and tell me how do you have set your pagefile size. Is it a laptop or dektop? Tell me what you'r running in the background (antivirus, etc.). Check if you have your DX up to date. Does .808 native load fine? Check how much empty space you have in drive C.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 10, 2008, 06:22:54 PM
HD 3600 series ATI,aprox. 170 gb left,2 gb RAM,uhm,pagefile?(not really sure what it is)
NOD32 Antivirus running(Tried closing it too),Direct X 9.0c,and native loads perfectly,Intel Core 2 Duo E 7200  @ 2.53 ghz
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 10, 2008, 09:22:37 PM
The pagefile thing is the virtual memory. I somehow doubt this could be causing all the trouble (although this used to be a problem for some older games), but you can try giving it a fixed size (this used to fix the problem). Do as follows:

- Go to Control Panel/System and open the Advanced tab.
- Under Performance, click on Settings.
- You have another Advanced tab in Settings, choose it.
- Under Virtual memory, select change.
- Set the same value for mnimum and maximum (I have 3070 for 2 gigs RAM) and click on Set.
- I think you'll have to restart your computer for this to take effect. The only side-effect will be a slight increase in performance for your system ;)

Tell me if it worked.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 11, 2008, 05:06:08 AM
Nope,didn't work...  ???
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: ghanburighan on October 11, 2008, 06:02:25 AM
Have you tried searching or asking on  the Taleworlds forum? Some people there get the same error,

Folthrik got the exact same error with TLD, she apparently installed different M&B versions in the same folder:
http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php/topic,35254.0.html (http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php/topic,35254.0.html)

Zidiean got the same error with several mods:
http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php/topic,30429.msg781563.html#msg781563 (http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php/topic,30429.msg781563.html#msg781563)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 11, 2008, 06:21:10 AM
Yeah,but I've 3 versions of M&B(.960,.808 and 1.003) each cleanly in it's own directory,no problem with that)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 11, 2008, 02:46:58 PM
Try to lower/disable all M&B graphics options (disable sound variation too) and see if it loads, just to make sure it isn't a performance issue.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 11, 2008, 04:46:28 PM
I've tried that too,lowered the resolution,graphic,no sound,everything...
Maybe my PC hates me x_x
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 11, 2008, 04:59:09 PM
It must be related to some wrong procedure during installation, I can't see anything else causing it. Are you sure you're installing multiple M&B versions properly?

Or you can try downloading TLD again, files can get corrupted during download sometimes...
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 11, 2008, 05:40:04 PM
I did re-download it when I reinstalled M&B,and I'm 100% sure that all the versions are installed properly.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 11, 2008, 06:03:40 PM
Well, then I'm afraid I'm out of ideas, sorry. You'll probably have to wait for the port.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 12, 2008, 06:09:01 AM
No problem,you did try,thanks.
I'll wait for the port.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: FleshyStarfish on October 13, 2008, 02:20:05 AM
Crotch trooper,

Here's a question.  Could it be that you're placing TLD in the wrong installation?  You said you have versions .808, .960 and 1.003.  Could you, accidently, be installing it in the wrong directory?  I've done that before.  It stems from the fact that its both natural (and in some cases .exe files do this) to just go to the native mount and blade directory.  However, which version is your directory?  So, on my comp. I have .808 installed in /mountandblade/etc. and 1.003 in /mountandblade2/etc.

Thanks,

FS
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 13, 2008, 08:34:24 AM
I'm sure,I've got my folder names Mount&Blade808,Mount&Blade960,Mount&Blade1003...
And I'm sure it's in the right directory,because,I start the mod,but when I go to "Start A New Game" it crashes,if it wasn't in the right directory I wouldn't be able to start the mod at all.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: FleshyStarfish on October 13, 2008, 12:12:55 PM
Crotch,

Ok, take a look at the shortcut you are using.  In one of my previous installations, the shortcuts got completely messed up.  That caused me to have similar problems as you described.

Many times its the little things that keep you from having the most fun... :(

FS
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 14, 2008, 11:57:28 AM
Nothing wrong with the shortcut,I guess...
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 14, 2008, 03:02:46 PM
The best way to make sure the shortcuts are correct is to right-click on the .exe file (in the game directory) and select "send to desktop/create shortcut", then you can rename it accordingly to the respective M&B version. That's what I do.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: FleshyStarfish on October 15, 2008, 05:52:12 AM
Yeah, sometimes I had my shortcuts change "automatically" because they were set incorrectly by a new installation.  That became so annoying and after an hour of research, I found a problem that should have only taken 5 min. of my time!

Crotch, what did you find out after you checked our suggestions? 

You know, its kind of a shame you're Croatian, because if you were Chinese you could go the whole "Crotchial Tiger" route...you could even make a movie!

FS

P.S. Hey, try making fun of my name.  Its fun too!  :D
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 15, 2008, 02:17:08 PM
I've really tried all and I still don't know what's going on :S

P.S.I can't think of anything about a fleshy starfish that wasn't said already <.<
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Triglav on October 15, 2008, 03:08:56 PM
P.S.I can't think of anything about a fleshy starfish that wasn't said already <.<

Indeed. "Fleshy starfish" returns more hits on google than "sex". Nuff said.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: TacoJunta on October 16, 2008, 02:28:44 AM
Indeed. "Fleshy starfish" returns more hits on google than "sex". Nuff said.

I have to admit that is quite unsettling
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: FleshyStarfish on October 16, 2008, 04:32:59 AM
Indeed. "Fleshy starfish" returns more hits on google than "sex". Nuff said.

I have to admit that is quite unsettling

What can I say?  I get around.   ;)

I thought of a new movie.  If Crotch Trooper doesn't like my "Crotchial Tiger, Hidden Dragon" then why don't we make something like "Starfish Tiger, Fleshy Dragon."  I'm thinking maybe this guy (http://www.worldrecordsacademy.org/human/img/ManuelUribe1.jpg (http://www.worldrecordsacademy.org/human/img/ManuelUribe1.jpg)) would be best as the Fleshy Dragon...no idea who would play the Starfish Tiger (Tiger Woods perhaps?).     :D

FS
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Triglav on October 16, 2008, 04:40:10 AM
Indeed. "Fleshy starfish" returns more hits on google than "sex". Nuff said.

I have to admit that is quite unsettling

You went and checked, didn't you?  ;)





What can I say?  I get around.   ;)

I thought of a new movie.  If Crotch Trooper doesn't like my "Crotchial Tiger, Hidden Dragon" then why don't we make something like "Starfish Tiger, Fleshy Dragon."  I'm thinking maybe this guy (http://www.worldrecordsacademy.org/human/img/ManuelUribe1.jpg (http://www.worldrecordsacademy.org/human/img/ManuelUribe1.jpg)) would be best as the Fleshy Dragon...no idea who would play the Starfish Tiger (Tiger Woods perhaps?).     :D


There's only one distinguished thespian that can fill the shoes of the Starfish Tiger:
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/resources/2007/02/RonJeremy%5B1%5D.jpg)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Crotrooper on October 16, 2008, 07:53:04 AM
Silly me thinking this has gone off topic <.<
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: FleshyStarfish on October 16, 2008, 12:39:17 PM
Absolutely not!   :)  The people that work on this mod need some things to (every once and a while) relax their brain cells so they can throw their entire bodies at creating a mod that will even outpace native in downloads!   :lol:

That Starfish Tiger... 8) he's perfect!

FS
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: draconis on October 17, 2008, 03:28:48 PM
Ok when ever i try to start a new game its fine untill it gets to launching game

than this pops up

Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library

Assertion failed!

Program: C:\Program Files\Mount&Blade\mount&blade.exe
File: \Develop\Mb\rglString.epp
Line: 285

Expression:(carsor+len)<=Str_length

For information how your program can cause an assertion failure, see the Visual C++ documentation on asserts

(Press Retry to debug the application - JIT must be enabled)







Please help me i realy want to play this mod so badly

Draconis Topmen
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 17, 2008, 04:50:44 PM
Draconis, read a few pages back and see if any of those things I posted fixes it for you.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: draconis on October 17, 2008, 05:47:22 PM
Draconis, read a few pages back and see if any of those things I posted fixes it for you.

i try lowering my textures and it didint work
any ither ideas?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 17, 2008, 06:11:41 PM
Did you try any of the other suggestions?

Post your comp specs (processor, RAM, graphics card) and OS. And is it a laptop or desktop model?

Also, does .808 native load fine?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: draconis on October 18, 2008, 07:11:54 AM
Did you try any of the other suggestions?

Post your comp specs (processor, RAM, graphics card) and OS. And is it a laptop or desktop model?

Also, does .808 native load fine?

ill have to get back to you on the Processor, RAM and graphics card but .808 native works great and i have a laptop.

Draconis Topmen
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Wilk. on October 20, 2008, 12:22:13 PM
 
I have 8.08 and mod when i start native its all OK but when I'm trying to start run mod after i choose where i wont start, game is crashing with this error


Unable to get  technique  with name  mtarini_snow_map


help :(
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: KvChaos on October 24, 2008, 09:43:43 PM
0.808 with v2.4 in Vista.
Everything seems to be working fine until I completed the character creation.
After that all I see is a black screen rather than the world map I suppose. Game is still running though... just black screen that is.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: TacoJunta on October 27, 2008, 05:15:13 AM
I've been fighting lesser hosts up to about 100 guys but I can never do it in one battle, I manage to kill all the guys but then they just stop getting reinforcements and I have to retreat and then fight the smaller group while my men sit around running into the wall in frustration, so I'm assuming they spawned outside the map. I have the battlesizer mod on set to about 100 which probably has everything to do with it.

Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 27, 2008, 07:07:04 AM
I've been fighting lesser hosts up to about 100 guys but I can never do it in one battle, I manage to kill all the guys but then they just stop getting reinforcements and I have to retreat and then fight the smaller group while my men sit around running into the wall in frustration, so I'm assuming they spawned outside the map. I have the battlesizer mod on set to about 100 which probably has everything to do with it.



Yep, that's an old bug related to using the battlesizer in .808, nothing we can do about it. Try reducing the number of troops until you find the maximum you can have without messing up the spawning.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: TacoJunta on October 28, 2008, 04:36:17 AM
Ah, thought as much, oh well thanks for clarifying!
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Trying2ShowReason on October 28, 2008, 04:57:18 PM
Just after creating my char , my map icon just disappears and i cannot go anywhere, except the main menu. i searched for the forums if this problem was already posted but i didnt find any so here it goes... sorry for any inconvenience and thanks for the upcoming resolutions! keep up the good work
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 28, 2008, 05:20:26 PM
Just after creating my char , my map icon just disappears and i cannot go anywhere, except the main menu. i searched for the forums if this problem was already posted but i didnt find any so here it goes... sorry for any inconvenience and thanks for the upcoming resolutions! keep up the good work

That's probably related to your graphics card not being able to handle the game. Post your system specs (processor, RAM, graphics card and OS), and I'l see if I can help you.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Trying2ShowReason on October 31, 2008, 03:52:20 PM
my pc is whack but if it handles 1.003 fine shouldn't it handle 0.808? :(

Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T2310 @ 1.46GHz 1.47Ghz
RAM 2039 MB
Windows Vista Home Premium 32b

...and the always super cool Intel Graphs Media acelerator 965 Xpress Chipset 358 MB, 1.482Mhz.

I know it sucks.. but as long as it runs M&B, its my baby . Thanks for any help
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on November 01, 2008, 12:45:10 AM
my pc is whack but if it handles 1.003 fine shouldn't it handle 0.808? :(

No, .808 lacks the graphics optimizations 1.003 has and TLD is heavier than .808 native.


Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T2310 @ 1.46GHz 1.47Ghz
RAM 2039 MB
Windows Vista Home Premium 32b

...and the always super cool Intel Graphs Media acelerator 965 Xpress Chipset 358 MB, 1.482Mhz.

I know it sucks.. but as long as it runs M&B, its my baby . Thanks for any help

The proplem is your graphics card. Try lowering or disabling all the eye candy and don't forget to turn off sound variation, and see if it works.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: azile0 on November 17, 2008, 10:14:06 PM
Yes, this junk spare computer I'm using runs 1.011 better than .808, due to TaleWorld's ingenuity.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Cwebb12345 on December 01, 2008, 04:45:47 AM
Well, I've tried to play TLD, but everytime i choose start a new game it gets to launching game and comes up with this error
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/cwebb12345/untitled-3.jpg)
I read what you told someone else who had this problem and ive downloaded the orc shader pack and turn the textures down, but it hasnt worked, Please help the more I read about this mod the more I feel like playing it XD

Also, I know my graphics card isn't the best in the world, Nvidia Geforce4 mx 440, But come on, surely this game isnt that demanding? The only lag i get on the actual game is when I talk to someone and thats about it etc, I know TLD is more demanding but Surely there is some way to play it?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Dumblor on December 01, 2008, 05:52:35 AM
Well, I've tried to play TLD, but everytime i choose start a new game it gets to launching game and comes up with this error
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/cwebb12345/untitled-3.jpg)
I read what you told someone else who had this problem and ive downloaded the orc shader pack and turn the textures down, but it hasnt worked, Please help the more I read about this mod the more I feel like playing it XD

Also, I know my graphics card isn't the best in the world, Nvidia Geforce4 mx 440, But come on, surely this game isnt that demanding? The only lag i get on the actual game is when I talk to someone and thats about it etc, I know TLD is more demanding but Surely there is some way to play it?

You obviuosly either use 1.x version to play it, or installed 0.808 on it. Try installing 808 in a different place, or COMPLETELY reinstall.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Oroonin on December 01, 2008, 02:27:36 PM
Nope. I´ve encoutered the same thing bunch of times. Just pressing ignore has always worked for me no problem.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on December 01, 2008, 03:18:30 PM
That's a problem I was never able to figure out. If it isn't related to some sort of bad installation I don't know what it is.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: azile0 on December 01, 2008, 11:19:12 PM
Yesh, if you're using .808, just click IGNORE. It'll usually work.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Draven on December 06, 2008, 07:09:13 PM
I have something similar to the guy above but every time I go somewhere, I get this old man and this error message appears stating "Expression:ray_vec.length()<10000000000.0f".Is that any way to bypass it or is the game unplayable for me?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on December 07, 2008, 12:18:31 PM
I don't know what it is, but these error messages are usally related to system performane or graphics card performance issues. Try disabling/lowering all the eye candy and "sound variation" in the M&B config panel, and see if it works.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Draven on December 07, 2008, 04:47:02 PM
Tried it, same. I can play crysis on high without any slowdown but I can't play pass an old man on this. Should have really stayed out of mods like before; can't tell what I'll get from it. I'll try something else and tinker with this one for a while
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on December 07, 2008, 05:15:49 PM
Draven, can you play native .808? Just to make sure it's just related with TLD.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Cwebb12345 on December 08, 2008, 12:03:49 PM
Ok, Its not the game itself, Im running three versions of M&B .808 among them, Im sure theyre in different folders because the .808 is in my local disc folder and the others are in my documents.

Its probably my computer, Do you need a Pixel Shader for this mod? I dont have one.

Also, I clicked ignore it doesnt work.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on December 08, 2008, 04:08:49 PM
Ok, Its not the game itself, Im running three versions of M&B .808 among them, Im sure theyre in different folders because the .808 is in my local disc folder and the others are in my documents.

Its probably my computer, Do you need a Pixel Shader for this mod? I dont have one.

Also, I clicked ignore it doesnt work.

I'd say the installation is probably messed up. Why do you need three M&B .808 installations in the first place? You should probably uninstall the whole thing and reinstall again, and make sure everything is where it should. The mod works fine for most people and I never got any of those error mesages myself, so I'd have to say there's nothing wrong with the mod. Just make sure you install the whole thing properly and it should work fine.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Brutus on December 08, 2008, 04:20:04 PM
Tried it, same. I can play crysis on high without any slowdown but I can't play pass an old man on this. Should have really stayed out of mods like before; can't tell what I'll get from it. I'll try something else and tinker with this one for a while

It can seem like a hassle, but it is free, legitimate, and So0Oo0oO0ooooo worth figuring out.  TLD is one of my top 5 favorite gaming experiences of all time (and i have been playing video games since the Coleco Telstar was the rage ;)).
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Kellor Kleft on December 19, 2008, 11:03:14 PM
Can someone help me with this error? When I start up the game the entire world map is bland: Meaning flat, just rivers, and the towns. And after a couple seconds an old man starts talking to me. But for some reason the character doesn't show on the portrait, and I get a runtime error window that closes the game. I've tried this multiple times with different people and I find any NPC that engages conversation brings a crash. Here's a screenshot: http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=runtimepp7.jpg


Someone know what's wrong?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on December 20, 2008, 10:25:49 AM
Try lowering/disabling all the graphics options in the M&B config panel and see if it works. Also, disable sound variation while you're there.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Kellor Kleft on December 20, 2008, 05:10:16 PM
Well, it doesn't crash anymore, but the character portraits are still missing, and I get errors whenever I try going into some places like edoras.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on December 21, 2008, 07:20:04 PM
Well, it doesn't crash anymore, but the character portraits are still missing, and I get errors whenever I try going into some places like edoras.

What are your system specs? Is is a laptop? It looks like a system performance issue to me.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Tallan on December 26, 2008, 11:38:35 AM
Well, I've tried to play TLD, but everytime i choose start a new game it gets to launching game and comes up with this error
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/cwebb12345/untitled-3.jpg)
I read what you told someone else who had this problem and ive downloaded the orc shader pack and turn the textures down, but it hasnt worked, Please help the more I read about this mod the more I feel like playing it XD

Also, I know my graphics card isn't the best in the world, Nvidia Geforce4 mx 440, But come on, surely this game isnt that demanding? The only lag i get on the actual game is when I talk to someone and thats about it etc, I know TLD is more demanding but Surely there is some way to play it?

You obviuosly either use 1.x version to play it, or installed 0.808 on it. Try installing 808 in a different place, or COMPLETELY reinstall.


I am getting the same exact problem, and i can garentee that its not a performance problem.  Even if i click ignore it still doesnt work, its just keeps crashing.  This is a major problem that clearly many people are having. This should be addressed immediately.  I really want to play this mod.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on December 26, 2008, 08:33:37 PM
Does native .808 load fine for you?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Tallan on December 26, 2008, 10:11:05 PM
Does native .808 load fine for you?

yes it runs perfect, and i made sure of it.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on December 26, 2008, 11:13:15 PM
Then it's performance related.

TLD uses a bunch of stuff that many systems can't handle.  You can help that a little by lowering your graphics settings, and be sure to have the latest drivers for all of your hardware (especially graphics card).

Start there ... if that doesn't get it, then post your system specs and we'll see if anybody has heard of any issues unique to your type of hardware.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: azile0 on December 27, 2008, 01:15:34 PM
Well, it has to be at least above a 64mb card, because that's what I run. With a 2.2 Gig processor and 2 gigs of RAM...
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Tallan on December 30, 2008, 11:25:38 PM
Then it's performance related.

TLD uses a bunch of stuff that many systems can't handle.  You can help that a little by lowering your graphics settings, and be sure to have the latest drivers for all of your hardware (especially graphics card).

Start there ... if that doesn't get it, then post your system specs and we'll see if anybody has heard of any issues unique to your type of hardware.


Tried it and still no dice.  I can't tell you exact details about my shit, but i know i have a 256 video card, 2 gigs of ram, core duo, and plenty of hard drive space.  I really do not think its performance related if its giving me a C++ error...isn't that actual code? 
So whatever, if there is no fix to this problem then i guess ill have to wait for the 1.0 port to be finished.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ancientwanker on December 31, 2008, 07:32:31 PM
Its probably the graphics card.  TLD for .808 was very piggy on memory.  I organized things as best as I knew how at the time but under load it can still use 700+mb iirc.   The port will very likely be slimmer, even with the additions.   Not having enough memory when it needs it will get you a C++ error iirc (and other odd behavior).

The two most likely causes for problems on start-up (or not starting at all) are an installation problem/conflict or inadequate memory.  If anyone has the start-up problem and can't fix it by playing with those, youll just have to wait for the 1.01 port.  Or whatever the version is at that point.

Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Munx on January 05, 2009, 05:39:03 PM
Havnt read all pages so cant tell if anyones encountered this before, but I just finished the gaunlet match in brigand fort, the bug is how ever first off it never ended at 100, I was sure i was over 100 when I died, and damnit was I right, got killed at 314 kills, how ever the match was supposed to end at 100 ? all I got out of it was a lousie 2500 denars.

Also because of the bug where I ended up fighting 3 times as many opponentsas i was supposed to the enemys started spawning outside the arena walls...
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Kazzan on January 14, 2009, 11:09:36 AM
I get a rgl error each time the old man shows up, now thats crap, coz i cant play this. :-\

It says Scene_h is missing. ???
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on January 14, 2009, 03:16:30 PM
I get a rgl error each time the old man shows up, now thats crap, coz i cant play this. :-\

It says Scene_h is missing. ???

Probably just another video memory issue. The scene is there (assuming you installed the whole thing properly), but it didn't load. Try reducing/disabling the video options as much a possible and turn off "Sound Variation". See if that helps.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Kazzan on January 15, 2009, 09:13:08 AM
Ty mate it worked ;)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on January 15, 2009, 10:18:48 AM
Cool. You can try to bring back some of the eye candy now. See what your system can handle. Don't turn on sound variation though; it will slow things down and TLD doesn't need it.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Necrolancer on January 15, 2009, 12:55:36 PM
In arena fights i dont get shield.Ever.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Merlkir on January 15, 2009, 01:14:04 PM
In arena fights i dont get shield.Ever.

that's a normal 0.808 bug, not a TLD issue.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Kazzan on January 15, 2009, 04:56:25 PM
The window in conversations where you should se the face of the one your talking wirth is screwed up. :-\
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on January 15, 2009, 05:27:24 PM
The window in conversations where you should se the face of the one your talking wirth is screwed up. :-\

No it isn't. That would be your system not being able to deal with the graphics. Again, lowering/disabling the graphics options would probably fix it.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Kazzan on January 16, 2009, 07:07:07 AM
Why? I have EN8800GTX as graphics card and crysis runs smoothly on my computer. How?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on January 16, 2009, 07:57:42 AM
TLD doesn't just put general strain on the system ... it puts pressure on particular graphics functions.  This crashes a lot of cards, honestly... even hardware that would run more generally resource-intensive stuff.  But do like they say - turn down the graphics settings - and see if it fixes itself.

If that doesn't work, try to re-install M&B and TLD, and check your graphics drivers.

Because if you get the graphics set low enough, it works for other people, on machines with a lot less general capability.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ancientwanker on January 16, 2009, 10:13:49 AM
The texture optimization in .808 was limited because I didnt know much at the time.   That version can use up to 700+ mb if you check your taskbar while its running.  WHen you are not in battle, that's all loaded into system memory by m&b and not video memory. If you are light on either system memory or video memory it can cause an early crash in the mod which can appear in various forms.

A few scripting issues can manifest much later in the .808 mod but when there is an early problem with the mod it's always been one of two things; a memory issue or an installation issue.   This thread has some info for trying to solve both.   If it still doesnt work youll have to wait for the port, which has more content but uses less memory.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: seraphimpish on January 16, 2009, 02:28:49 PM
Hello,

My game as an elf crashes as well. I get the same error message as some mentioned before with the thread 623 and m number >0. Possibly the trainer bug... (Whatever that is?)

Problem is, I'm playiing with realistic settings and can't find my save file.

So what now? Help much appreciated... Lemme know if anything is unclear (considering the lack of relevant info in this post, heh).

Peace!
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Necrolancer on January 17, 2009, 05:19:15 AM
Dunno if bug but im doing a quest for lothorien (how ever its spelled) where i must scout moria scouting party. I have been following those goblins for two days. If its a bug do i must make a new save of what? If its not a bug what must i do to get the quest complete?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on January 17, 2009, 06:05:24 AM
Dunno if bug but im doing a quest for lothorien (how ever its spelled) where i must scout moria scouting party. I have been following those goblins for two days. If its a bug do i must make a new save of what? If its not a bug what must i do to get the quest complete?

Find a "warg rider" party.  It was a bug in development - the scouts were divided into foot and mounted, but only the mounted group got counted in the mission objectives.  Same with attack missions.  (Can't remember - may also apply to Isengard scouts.)

Troops are scheduled to be totally re-worked next version, so it's not worth fixing.  You just have to know about it.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ancientwanker on January 18, 2009, 02:32:40 PM
Hello,

My game as an elf crashes as well. I get the same error message as some mentioned before with the thread 623 and m number >0. Possibly the trainer bug... (Whatever that is?)

Problem is, I'm playiing with realistic settings and can't find my save file.

So what now? Help much appreciated... Lemme know if anything is unclear (considering the lack of relevant info in this post, heh).

Peace!



This one was never solved in .808.  It's *the* significant bug and I never found out why.   Some games it will happen, others not.  It might have something to do with the elven rewards.  The next version will be rewritten from scratch so it's unlikely to appear.   We'll have new bugs instead.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Earendil the Mariner on January 25, 2009, 09:41:05 PM
I've gotten the following error, regardless of what I'm doing, within 2-3 minutes of starting a new game.  It makes the game unplayable.  I've already lowered the graphics to the butt-ugly settings, and I'm playing the most current version of the mod.

e:\develop\mb\rgl\rglTerrain_map.h
Line: 138
Exception: ray_vec.length()<10000000000.0f
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ron Losey on January 25, 2009, 10:33:07 PM
I've gotten the following error, regardless of what I'm doing, within 2-3 minutes of starting a new game.  It makes the game unplayable.  I've already lowered the graphics to the butt-ugly settings, and I'm playing the most current version of the mod.

e:\develop\mb\rgl\rglTerrain_map.h
Line: 138
Exception: ray_vec.length()<10000000000.0f

Something your graphics card can't handle.  (ray vector length is obviously a graphic display reference of some kind)
Post your system specs, see if anybody has heard anything about particular graphics cards doing funny things.
Also make sure your video drivers are new.

Whatever it is, it's unique to something on your system ... I'm pretty sure that one has not been reported before.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Earendil the Mariner on January 26, 2009, 04:49:27 PM
I've gotten the following error, regardless of what I'm doing, within 2-3 minutes of starting a new game.  It makes the game unplayable.  I've already lowered the graphics to the butt-ugly settings, and I'm playing the most current version of the mod.

e:\develop\mb\rgl\rglTerrain_map.h
Line: 138
Exception: ray_vec.length()<10000000000.0f

Something your graphics card can't handle.  (ray vector length is obviously a graphic display reference of some kind)
Post your system specs, see if anybody has heard anything about particular graphics cards doing funny things.
Also make sure your video drivers are new.

Whatever it is, it's unique to something on your system ... I'm pretty sure that one has not been reported before.

PROCESSOR:  Intel Quad Q6600
VIDEO CARD:  NVidia GeForce 8800GT
RAM:  4GB

The part about the drivers made sense, because I had to install an older version to get another game to play before.  I don't remember if I reinstalled the latest one.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Earendil the Mariner on January 26, 2009, 05:12:28 PM
No.  No love.

I made sure I had the latest drivers and I still get the same problem.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Ancientwanker on January 26, 2009, 05:57:47 PM
Hm, there is some info here about getting around some installation issues with .808. I think its a few pages back.

I played it smoothly with an x1900xt and 2 gig of system ram on a dual core system before I upgraded to a 4850 so you should be fine on that score.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Earendil the Mariner on January 26, 2009, 06:58:14 PM
Hm, there is some info here about getting around some installation issues with .808. I think its a few pages back.

I played it smoothly with an x1900xt and 2 gig of system ram on a dual core system before I upgraded to a 4850 so you should be fine on that score.

Well, I fixed the problem, whatever it was.

I simply uninstalled, ran a registry check, and reinstalled.  Works fine.

Now I can get back to playing my most favorite M&B mod :-)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on January 27, 2009, 06:43:32 AM
There you go :)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Earendil the Mariner on January 27, 2009, 09:17:41 PM
ARG!

I restarted the game and I'm having the same problem!
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Tallefred on March 12, 2009, 03:03:07 AM
I have played this new version couple of times.  Sometimes my player just dissapere on the world map and game just go on and on but i cannot do anything. I cannot press Quest or party. and i dont see me.

This happened to me twice today, with 2 separate games. Once with a Rohir and once with an Uruk. Both times it happened shortly after the war started (I can't recall if it was the same day or not but I'll test it later to see for sure). I had companions both times, although I'm not sure if they had training skills or not.

Those are the only two games I've played so I'm not sure if it's a coincidence or if it's a chronic issue. I'll try again later today and post results.

EDIT: I tested again with another Uruk and an Elf, both time with the same problem, but this time I noticed it happens when the message for "weekly influence" comes up. I'm going to try reinstalling and see if that works.

EDIT: Problem persisted after reinstall.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: azile0 on April 09, 2009, 10:59:01 AM
Completely delete the Mount and Blade folder after un-install. Re-install M&B and TLD. The Mount and Blade folder stays after you uninstall, along with your Modules. Complete and total refresh should do the trick.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Knight555 on April 24, 2009, 12:37:53 PM
hey people i have a problem whit  TLD i click play start new game and write me error...People do you now what it s here is link of picture my error http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3333/yyyyyyyyyy.jpg
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: onepostpony on April 24, 2009, 03:29:32 PM
hey people i have a problem whit  TLD i click play start new game and write me error...People do you now what it s here is link of picture my error http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3333/yyyyyyyyyy.jpg

Quote from: Most likely answer to common problem
Completely delete the Mount and Blade folder after un-install. Re-install M&B and TLD. The Mount and Blade folder stays after you uninstall, along with your Modules. Complete and total refresh should do the trick.
_______

When I got an error message (after the start of every second battle), I got into rgl_config.txt and increased the value of render_buffer_size.

Is there a Vista-compatible map-editor for v0.808? The one I have has blurred blocks of something, making it impossible to comprehend.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: thecalaquendi on April 24, 2009, 06:11:23 PM
Letters seem excessively blurred throughout the game.  I don't recall this when play TLD (months ago.) Here's a few screenshots to show you what I mean.  Is this a known bug, or is it actually supposed to be like that? I'm playing at 1280*1024 with textures at max.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b169/TheCalaquendi/blurry2.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b169/TheCalaquendi/blurry.jpg)

Thanks :)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: onepostpony on April 24, 2009, 06:33:39 PM
I don't have that particular problem. For you, it might be a setting for your graphics card that does that. Something to do with pre-rendered frames.

But my computer runs TLD fine. The issue is with Thorgrim's Map Editor. The one I download for v0.808 gives me rectangular blurriness where I think text is supposed to go.

It's not that much of an issue. I've modified TLD-2.4 to my liking well enough and just wanted to remove the little lakes that appear in the Dead Marshes (?) from that beautified map.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: thecalaquendi on April 24, 2009, 07:29:05 PM
I don't have that particular problem. For you, it might be a setting for your graphics card that does that. Something to do with pre-rendered frames.

But my computer runs TLD fine. The issue is with Thorgrim's Map Editor. The one I download for v0.808 gives me rectangular blurriness where I think text is supposed to go.

It's not that much of an issue. I've modified TLD-2.4 to my liking well enough and just wanted to remove the little lakes that appear in the Dead Marshes (?) from that beautified map.

I found the problem.  I had to sync the in-game refresh rate with my desktop.  The game looks soooooo much nicer now, just as I had remembered it! I must say, though, that I did not recall the combat mechanics of .808 being so................... *PUKES*
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: onepostpony on April 25, 2009, 07:13:49 AM
But once you make a bigger battlesize, fix the Ulfas bug, allow more reinforcements, and give the shops a higher capital ceiling, you can deal with v0.808
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: thecalaquendi on April 25, 2009, 01:55:53 PM
What I meant is that I find it very difficult to fight without a mount when slightly outnumbered.  It doesn't really matter how good your troops are, as long as there's more of them on the other side, you're screwed (unless you have mounted troops.)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: azile0 on April 26, 2009, 03:14:38 AM
Au contrair. I've got about 250-ish Gondor infantry, all med/top tier, and can easily beat down 500+ Armies. Even if they are mostly cavalry. And then, you have times where the inverse is true.

(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn183/Azzarain/Newenemies.jpg)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: onepostpony on April 26, 2009, 07:31:07 AM
What if he's with Mordor or Isengard? Then he can't outrun something when he wants to. He would need to be near a host until he makes enough high level troops to do a mission. Meanwhile, supplies are disrupted.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: thecalaquendi on April 26, 2009, 01:52:35 PM
I was just pissed because I got killed by a few tribal orcs at the very beginning! I am curious about something, and that is why I can never outrun orcs/ennemies.  Do they have impossibly high athletics, or are they simply wearing extremely light clothing?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: onepostpony on April 26, 2009, 04:33:25 PM
Light clothing. Hire enough troops to equal them and they usually scatter.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DragFire on May 04, 2009, 08:09:46 AM
I have this error after a few seconds when the game started and i was in the map game

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4179/dibujoope.jpg


Sorry for my bad english and thx for help :D

Mi PC
Intel Quad 6600
4gb RAM
Geforce 8500GT
Mount and BLADE VERSION 0808
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: onepostpony on May 04, 2009, 10:31:53 AM
Go into rgl_log.txt and paste the last 4 or 5 lines here.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DragFire on May 04, 2009, 10:50:12 AM
Go into rgl_log.txt and paste the last 4 or 5 lines here.

 Out of Static vertex buffer memory. Needed =  140569 Available: 57825
 Expanding Buffer Capacity to  168682
 Out of dynamic vertex buffer memory. Needed =  101372 Available: 28912
 Expanding Buffer Capacity to  121646
 Saving options...


Thx for help  :green:
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on May 04, 2009, 11:36:45 AM
DragFire, try lowering/disabling some or all of the graphics options in the M&B config panel, and see if it fixes it for you. Also, disable "Sound Variation" while you're at it. If it works, you can then try enabling some stuff again, and see how it goes from there. Keep Sound Variation disabled though; seems it didn't work that well in .808 and I know it gave problems to some people before.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: azile0 on May 05, 2009, 01:34:03 PM
Also, go into your Task Manager via Control+Alt+Delete and click the "Processes" tab. You can find all Memory-consuming processes here, and can terminate some unneeded junk programs and free up more memory to help your computer run faster. Be careful not to accidentally shut down vital system programs.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on May 05, 2009, 01:54:26 PM
Yeah, that's good advice from azile0. For better performance you should always keep startup progs to a minimum, including antivirus, antispyware, etc. If you have a lot of programs working in the background they will slowdown your machine.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: onepostpony on May 25, 2009, 09:03:05 AM
Should Théodred die, I don't believe a mound would spawn for him.

While the mound is ready in the code, there are no scripts which reference the mound.

EDIT1: Same with Miriel

EDIT2: I believe the bravery trait is skipped over as well.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: azile0 on June 22, 2009, 04:45:50 PM
I accidentally shot and killed Miriel with an arrow, and a Mound spawned for her.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: ziom14PL on July 25, 2009, 04:34:58 AM
Hi everyone


I have a problem with new game (M&B ver 0.808)

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/9373/5657687654324354.png

What I should do?


(Sorry for my poor english, I'm from Poland xD )
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Wild Rover on July 25, 2009, 08:38:46 AM
When I entered Rivenndel camp, I had an option to recruit those sons of Elrond for 350 influence. I only had 249 influence, but I clicked an option to recruit them by accident. They accepted and joined my party, and I have -101 influence now.
Well... WTF? How can I have negative influence? That is silly.



And sorry for bad english.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Oroonin on July 25, 2009, 09:32:24 AM
Ziom: Those errors occur once in while. Just ignore and save quickly. Allways worked for me.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: ziom14PL on July 25, 2009, 01:12:50 PM
Still not work
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on July 25, 2009, 01:59:44 PM
Hi everyone


I have a problem with new game (M&B ver 0.808)

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/9373/5657687654324354.png

What I should do?


(Sorry for my poor english, I'm from Poland xD )

That happened before but I don't know what it might be. My best guess would be a bad installation.



When I entered Rivenndel camp, I had an option to recruit those sons of Elrond for 350 influence. I only had 249 influence, but I clicked an option to recruit them by accident. They accepted and joined my party, and I have -101 influence now.
Well... WTF? How can I have negative influence? That is silly.



And sorry for bad english.

I think it's a bug due to the fact they come in pairs :P As you can see you "owe" the right amount of influence now. I believe your influence status will get updated normally.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: ziom14PL on July 25, 2009, 03:30:08 PM
I downloaded from here http://www.mbrepository.com/modules/PDdownloads/visit.php?cid=7&lid=61&f=TheLastDays2.4.exe
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on July 25, 2009, 03:51:11 PM
Yeah ziom, that's the right file. But are you sure you installed all things properly? Also, sometimes you get corrupt files when something goes wrong during download, you could always try to download again if nothing else works.

EDIT: You could also try to look for a "mb.fx" file out of the main M&B .808 folder, look for it in the TLD main folder. If you find it there, move it to the M&B main folder overwriting the original one (make a backup copy first just in case). See if that solves it.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: ziom14PL on July 26, 2009, 02:45:17 AM
I don't have this file in TLD main folder. Reinstall not work to
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on July 26, 2009, 08:56:12 AM
Can you play .808 native?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: ziom14PL on July 28, 2009, 06:04:20 AM
none that same error. I did like this:
M&B 1.003
Patched to 0.808
install TLD


http://www.taleworlds.com/download/mountandblade_0808_setup.exe my patch 0.808
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on July 28, 2009, 08:37:54 AM
none that same error. I did like this:
M&B 1.003
Patched to 0.808
install TLD


http://www.taleworlds.com/download/mountandblade_0808_setup.exe my patch 0.808

That's why it doesn't work, you can't patch it to a previous version. You must uninstall ALL and reinstall it properly.

I posted instructions on how to have multiple M&B installations, look for it if needed.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: ziom14PL on July 29, 2009, 04:36:52 AM
can you give url to this post?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on July 29, 2009, 12:21:58 PM
I posted it more than once, other people posted alternative instructions too. It's probably in this thread somewhere and probably in other threads as well.

Use the search function, man. If you can't find it, I'll look for it later.

PS: You probably can find instructions at the Taleworlds forum as well.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: jamoecw on July 30, 2009, 09:10:37 AM
http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php/topic,30480.0.html
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Polliainen on July 31, 2009, 12:37:48 PM
I'm playing as rohan rider and got mission to free opharim or what ever that heros name were spelled, so i did the rescue thing and now im getting endless reward of 2500 from galadriel and the mission is still "not done" even when i have received the reward for like 50 times :green: also i cannot decline the mission with influence points as i did when same problem occurred with gondor
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Polliainen on August 01, 2009, 08:49:25 AM
Anybody know anything about it? Or...
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on August 01, 2009, 09:50:34 AM
I never got that one myself, not sure you can do something about it. What TLD version are you playing?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Polliainen on August 01, 2009, 10:14:29 AM
Newest one... kinda irritating as now i cant get anymore missions from him but in other hand game works perfectly, just sad about trolls being so small and easy to kill (takes one arrow to head or 2 to stomach/chest)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on August 01, 2009, 10:55:27 AM
That's because the piercing damage bonus bypasses their armor. If you try to kill one using a sword things will be different ;)

So, you got that mission from Orophin? Can you post the TLD version number?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Polliainen on August 01, 2009, 12:53:32 PM
Version is 2.4 and mission was from galadriel to rescue orophin from the minas morgul, i rescued him, have him as my party member get reward for doing it, unlimited times as galadriel thanks me for doing it but thats it, it is not done and you cannot decline elven missions(atleast i cant). 

And in books trolls were not killed with 1 or 2 arrows... they should have about 1k health to be realistic or atleast over 700
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on August 01, 2009, 01:15:04 PM
OK, I believe that bug has been corrected. Doesn't mean it won't happen again after the port :lol: We'll do our best to make it as bug-free as possible though.

It's not easy to balance those kind of things, but we'll take a look at the trolls stats and see what we can do for the next version.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Polliainen on August 01, 2009, 01:24:39 PM
Thank you, ill get back teasing you after I find something to tease with :green:

And... just one more thing... it could be nice if I could buy lembas like troops meaning there would be options for 1 2 5 and 10 for example, its quite irritating to buy food for month as you have to buy them one by one
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Death_Wolf on August 17, 2009, 06:02:29 PM
I havent read the whole topic because, well its 25 pages, so I dont know if this has been posted yet. Sorry if it has.

When I start the game, I get through the loading part before the main menu. Then when I click on "Create a new game" it loads then when it reaches "Starting game" (or something liek that), it crashes and says this:

Assertion fail!

Program C:\Programfiles\Mount & Blade.exe
File:\Develop\mb\rg\rglstring.cpp
Epression:(cursor + len) <=Str_length

Help please, this mod looks awsome.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on August 17, 2009, 06:26:17 PM
That's either a faulty installation or a weak computer, not sure which one. Can you play native .808? Are you playing on a laptop?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: ericdb on August 23, 2009, 12:43:59 AM
That's either a faulty installation or a weak computer, not sure which one. Can you play native .808? Are you playing on a laptop?

I am getting this same problem. I am using the .808 downgrade file that I downloaded, though I don't know if that is related. I also downloaded my game file from an online source.

I have a top of the line system, so it isn't that. I even tried turnign down textures to the absolute minimum but receive the same error message.

I will try reinstallation in a different directory, and/or the 2.4.1 mod.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: ericdb on August 23, 2009, 12:59:35 AM
I downloaded it again, reinstalled the program, reinstalled the .808 downgrade, and reinstalled TLDs but still receive the same message.

But, I also cannot play the native version after the .808 downgrade either. So it isn't the mod. Maybe the .808 downgrade has issues with a download version of the game?

Bummer. I was really looking forward to playing this one.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Merlkir on August 23, 2009, 01:51:01 AM
There's no such thing as 0.808 downgrade. Make sure you isntall the 0.808 game into a different directory than the previous version you had (1.011 I presume).
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: ericdb on August 23, 2009, 04:11:04 AM
There's no such thing as 0.808 downgrade. Make sure you isntall the 0.808 game into a different directory than the previous version you had (1.011 I presume).

Or whatever you want to call the file that turns the 1.011 game to the .808 game. Patch, downgrade, mod, whatever.

It is in a different directory, and I have even tried a different hard drive. The game runs fine, then after I install the .808 mod, the game crashes. Even in native mode.

Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Merlkir on August 23, 2009, 04:18:32 AM
*sigh*
You don't downgrade, there's no patch from 1.011 to 0.808. You can have two installations at the same time. You can therefore play 1.011 or 0.808.

You HAVE TO download the 0.808 version of the game. Install that somewhere else than your previous 1.011. Then install TLD into the module folder of the 0.808 version.

Do you at least understand that you can't instal 0.808 over 1.011? You have to choose a different directory for 0.808 than the directory you've installed 1.011 into. I can't write it any more simple.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: ericdb on August 23, 2009, 08:43:33 AM
*sigh*
You don't downgrade, there's no patch from 1.011 to 0.808. You can have two installations at the same time. You can therefore play 1.011 or 0.808.

You HAVE TO download the 0.808 version of the game. Install that somewhere else than your previous 1.011. Then install TLD into the module folder of the 0.808 version.

Do you at least understand that you can't instal 0.808 over 1.011? You have to choose a different directory for 0.808 than the directory you've installed 1.011 into. I can't write it any more simple.

Look,  no reason to be a punk.


I have seen this (cursor len <= len (something like that))  problem many places and I think the problem is simple. I misinterpreted this:


The current version of mount and blade is 1.011. If you want to install the older .808 to play TLD just install into a different directory and then install the mod to the .808 version. You can have multiple versions of M&B installed at one time.  Check this thread for details about future updates: (http://mbx.streetofeyes.com/index.php?topic=926.0)


...to mean that this file was a mod that converted 1.011 to .808 when in fact it IS the entire .808 game. Others with the same problem in this thread problem thought the same thing.


Anyways, thanks for helping me figure out what was wrong,  even if extremely sarcastically.

Thanks to all involved, I can't wait to try it out!!!
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: zagoroth on August 28, 2009, 09:14:36 AM
I am having the same exact problem Ericdb was having, however even after uninstalling and removing Mount and Blade 1.011 completely and reinstalling the .808 version and the mod a few times it keeps on crashing. Initially, after I fixed the issue using this thread, the game ran great. However two hours into the game it started crashing again.

Edition: I tried playing again with lowered graphics settings, I thought I should try to change something. The game actually got past a dialogue sequence and almost initiated the battle. However the game froze with a graphical error and said the next time I played shadows would be disabled. I try to play the game again but am now getting the Assertion Failed error again.

Second Edition: For some reason the game runs perfectly if I am playing the demo, however if I try playing the same saves that I played in the demo on the full version it starts crashing again.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: jamoecw on August 28, 2009, 07:45:05 PM
did you use uninstall or did you delete the folder?  if you just deleted the folder, then try using the uninstall.  when installing you can also try to install to a different folder other than what you had for 1.011.  also i think there might be some bugs related to playing as elves if you are playing as elves.  if it is a graphical error you can also try running direct x 7 instead of 9, and turning down the graphics options.  i'll try to remember other issues that sometimes cause assertion errors.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: zagoroth on August 28, 2009, 09:02:53 PM
I uninstalled the game. Also I have been playing as a human Rohirrim. Also I have tried lowering the graphics settings and I am not sure it helps. The issue is the dialogue screen. What I cannot even begin to understand is why the game works when playing the demo and not the full version.   
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on August 28, 2009, 10:39:31 PM
Are those random crashes? Post your comp specs and I'll see if I can help.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: zagoroth on August 28, 2009, 11:12:57 PM
I do not believe they are random, the game consistently crashes whenever a dialogue screen pops up.

Here are my specifications:
OS Name   Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Business
System Manufacturer   Apple Inc.
System Model   MacBookPro4,1
System Type   X86-based PC
Processor   Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T8300  @ 2.40GHz, 2400 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)

My graphics card is Nvidia Geforce 8600m GT

If there is anything else you need Ill post it. Thanks for the help

Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on August 29, 2009, 07:14:51 AM
I already suspected it was a laptop model. I believe 70% of the problems in this thread are related with people playing (or trying to play) on a laptop, the other 30% are related with a faulty installation.

It's most certainly due to your video card sharing system memory. I think I said this more than a dozen times, turn "sound variation" off and lower or disable all graphics options and see if it works. If it doesn't, get yourself a desktop computer if you want to play games.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: zagoroth on August 29, 2009, 09:35:13 AM
Sound variation was already disabled. This is the only game so far that has not worked on my laptop, and I have played games as old as Star Craft. Any ways I think you are right with something being wrong with the graphics card. My Nvidia card was set wrong for identifying 3d models, instead of taking cues from the specific program it had itself on a set list of ways to deal with all 3d models. Anyways right now the game is working again, and thank you for all your help. I certainly hope I do not have to post here again  :). 
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: redwards on August 29, 2009, 09:53:38 AM
I am trying to play this but when starting up it goes to the loading INI stuff and then it says RGL Error "Get Texture Fail". I don't really understand why it isn't working.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: onepostpony on August 29, 2009, 10:48:44 AM
Go into rgl_log.txt and paste the last 10 or so lines here.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: redwards on August 29, 2009, 11:52:49 AM
 Loading Resource  textures_face_gen
 Loading Resource  shaders
 Loading Resource  textures
 Loading Resource  materials
 Loading Resource  materials_face_gen
 Loading Resource  uimeshes
 Loading Resource  meshes_face_gen
 Loading Resource  helpers
 Loading Resource  map_tree_meshes
 Loading Resource  map_icon_meshes
 Loading Module Resource  meshes_skybox
 Loading Resource  particle_meshes
 Loading Resource  skeletons
 Loading Resource  tree_meshes
 Loading Resource  xtree_meshes
 Loading Resource  grass_meshes
 Loading Resource  plant_meshes
 Loading Module Resource  tld_orc_body_materials
 ERROR: get_object failed for texture: 
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on August 29, 2009, 05:45:57 PM
Either you're using a laptop or you installed it wrong.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: RaZoray on August 30, 2009, 08:39:56 AM
ok

i launch TLD and i went to New Game and it loads all the way to launching game then this pops up

(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs152.snc1/5648_131722645918_683325918_3017077_1035794_n.jpg)


Plz help
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: jamoecw on August 30, 2009, 12:58:09 PM
Loading Resource  textures_face_gen
 Loading Resource  shaders
 Loading Resource  textures
 Loading Resource  materials
 Loading Resource  materials_face_gen
 Loading Resource  uimeshes
 Loading Resource  meshes_face_gen
 Loading Resource  helpers
 Loading Resource  map_tree_meshes
 Loading Resource  map_icon_meshes
 Loading Module Resource  meshes_skybox
 Loading Resource  particle_meshes
 Loading Resource  skeletons
 Loading Resource  tree_meshes
 Loading Resource  xtree_meshes
 Loading Resource  grass_meshes
 Loading Resource  plant_meshes
 Loading Module Resource  tld_orc_body_materials
 ERROR: get_object failed for texture: 
it is an incorrect insalation, all of the resources listed are also in native until you get to tld_orc_body_materials, and then it fails and crashes.  reinstall and check that the resouces are going where they should be (in the 'resource' folder of the mod folder 'F:\Program Files\Mount&Blade8.00\Modules\TLD' ;my .808 installation is in 'F:\Program Files\Mount&Blade8.00').
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: redwards on August 30, 2009, 03:01:06 PM
I am using the steam version and I reinstalled TLD twice so far. Then I tried to just drag the files for resource into it and it still won't work.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: octoburn on August 30, 2009, 03:16:37 PM
That's the problem. The steam version is 1.011, TLD is only supported on version .808 as of now...
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: redwards on August 30, 2009, 04:08:08 PM
That's the problem. The steam version is 1.011, TLD is only supported on version .808 as of now...
O, that sucks. Is there an word on when it will be ready or a way to downgrade?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: timhavens on August 30, 2009, 04:23:27 PM
Wow, I think I can hear DA, Octo, and Merlkir crying...

I believe the consensus is "It will be ready when it's ready."

As for a way to downgrade, http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php/topic,30480.0.html should allow you to download the client you need.  There are multiple threads around about having more than one install.  In fact, if you look back in this thread, you might just find some of the answers you seek...
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: RaZoray on August 30, 2009, 08:15:48 PM
ok

i launch TLD and i went to New Game and it loads all the way to launching game then this pops up

(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs152.snc1/5648_131722645918_683325918_3017077_1035794_n.jpg)


Plz help


ok i got it o begin the game, then i go and pick my stats, but when the game starts, as soon as i gain influence, the game semi-freezes. i can move the mouse, and open the quest menu, but nothing else works


Edit: also when it semi freezes there are still parties moving around me, and time still passes
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on August 31, 2009, 03:08:30 AM
Post your comp specs.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: RaZoray on August 31, 2009, 05:22:16 AM
my laptop

1.6GHz dual core proccessor
3 Gb RAM
Intel 965   with 358 Mb of vram
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on September 01, 2009, 01:01:50 AM
I believe it's a video memory issue. M&B .808 didn't have the graphics optimizations introduced in the latest versions, and TLD has a LOT of textures which are loaded into memory while launching the game.

Your graphics card probably shares system memory, which isn't good for games. Looks like your system can't run TLD for .808.

You may want to look for some info about system performance optimizations for Vista, maybe that would help. I can't help you with that, I don't use Vista.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: darkmasta82 on September 11, 2009, 03:13:58 AM
I have one. I have a bug when i talk to the old man.when he talks to me, i get an error of some sort.something about ray_vec. I really wanna play. It also gives me the option to "retry" which debugs the app. But then game crashes. I have vista and i cant change it to xp.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: onepostpony on September 11, 2009, 07:25:20 AM
Go into rgl_log.txt and paste the last 10 or so lines here.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Brardor on September 16, 2009, 10:47:06 AM
Whenever I started up version 808 with TLD or Vanilla the screen turns white after the load.  Anyone know what might be wrong?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on September 16, 2009, 02:11:46 PM
Whenever I started up version 808 with TLD or Vanilla the screen turns white after the load.  Anyone know what might be wrong?

Is it a laptop? Post your system specs.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Brardor on September 16, 2009, 11:00:43 PM
Intel Core-Duo 6420
Geforce GTX 260
4gig corsair ram

Desktop obviously. Graphics card is updated to the newest drivers; newest version of direct x is installed. (could it possibly be an older version causing an issue?)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: ManOfHonor on September 17, 2009, 12:04:29 AM
Any other programs experiencing graphical errors? (Check older and new if you can)
 
Other versions of M&B ok?

Try re-downloading and reinstalling .808 if the answer to all the above is no.


I know this sounds strange, but sometimes new versions of graphics drivers conflict with older programs, so you might want to downgrade, it could also be that the current version of drivers just doesn't want yo play with your PC, or is just plain messed up in one respect or another.

A spyware and adware scan is also advised.

Does M&B freeze on the white screen? (Not Responding, error report and all that crap, or do you need to use the task manager to nix it? )

Also what OS are you using?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Brardor on September 17, 2009, 02:32:56 AM
I haven't experienced any other errors.

I have two other versions of M&B installed and they're working fine.

I'll try a revert if I have to.

I have daily scans for that stuff.

The cursor is still active on the white screen but I've tried clicking around to see if there's anything active I was unable to find anything.  So it's kind of frozen.

I'm running XP with latest updates.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on September 17, 2009, 03:42:24 AM
Are you sure you installed .808 right? I can't see any other reason why it wouldn't work.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Brardor on September 17, 2009, 11:42:34 AM
How could I install it wrongly? I've re-installed it a few times without any luck.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Brardor on September 17, 2009, 01:19:34 PM
I did a fresh download of both the version and the mod and we're working  :P

Edit: Ok now I have another issue.  When I receive my first influence points at the beginning of the game my army disappears from the map and I'm unable to move but time continues to pass normally.  

It's happened both as an elf an uruk-hai

Edit2: Sorry for being such a pain but I would really like to try this mod out.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Merlkir on September 17, 2009, 03:22:30 PM
That sometimes happens and nobody knows what causes it. A friend of mine had it and then one day he tried a new game and it suddenly worked.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Brardor on September 17, 2009, 03:24:02 PM
So I should keep making new games until I find one that works?

Edit: If you pass time using the space bar (instead of traveling) before the influence points are given you don't become trapped. I've tested it out about 5 times and it seems like a legitimate work around for whatever is causing the problem.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on September 18, 2009, 03:14:42 AM
How could I install it wrongly? I've re-installed it a few times without any luck.

Some people intall .808 over 1.011, which messes up both versions.

Anyway, it sounds like a system performance issue, although your system should be able to run it fine. Maybe you have too much stuff running in the background?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Brardor on September 18, 2009, 09:05:09 PM
How could I install it wrongly? I've re-installed it a few times without any luck.

Some people intall .808 over 1.011, which messes up both versions.

Anyway, it sounds like a system performance issue, although your system should be able to run it fine. Maybe you have too much stuff running in the background?

There could be something to that because after a reboot it seems to work alright, but my rig is fairly current, I don't think my PC is going to have trouble loading up M&B.

I've kept two installs of 808 and I just loaded one and got the white screen and I loaded the other right after that and it loaded up fine.  With the same stuff running in the background. It even happens with native sometimes.

The spacebar workaround works every time for me though.  I have no idea why though.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: ManOfHonor on September 19, 2009, 01:35:11 AM
*shrug*
The curse of windows- it does what it wants when it wants.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: whatada on October 04, 2009, 07:56:49 PM
I have one. I have a bug when i talk to the old man.when he talks to me, i get an error of some sort.something about ray_vec. I really wanna play. It also gives me the option to "retry" which debugs the app. But then game crashes. I have vista and i cant change it to xp.

I'm having the same issue.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: darkmasta82 on October 06, 2009, 02:42:27 PM
Are u runnin vista? Cause i am and i think thats wat caused the problem
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: whatada on October 07, 2009, 06:08:26 AM
Are u runnin vista? Cause i am and i think thats wat caused the problem
Yes. The thing is, the game worked for me just fine for the first character I made. The whole duration. I made a second and the old man took a while to show up. The mugshots of the NPCs were being strange, i.e., they weren't in the frame. Eventually the old man would make an appearance and crash my game.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: darkmasta82 on October 07, 2009, 07:23:58 AM
I really dont wanna push the moderators to the limits, but please try to help us. wer desprate lol
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Kazzan on October 15, 2009, 04:28:09 PM
Im running vista aswell. The way to get around the crash on the old man is by lowering the graphical settings. As for the messed up character windows, i don't know how to fix that.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 16, 2009, 12:13:39 PM
Those are usually video memory issues. You guys probably need to lower or disable stuff in the M&B graphics options panel. Don't forget to turn off "sound variation" while you're there.

Most laptop models will not run TLD, especially those with a graphics card which shares system memory. If that's your case there's probably nothing you can do about it except play it on another computer.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: darkmasta82 on October 19, 2009, 02:30:47 PM
Im running vista aswell. The way to get around the crash on the old man is by lowering the graphical settings. As for the messed up character windows, i don't know how to fix that.

If you dont mind, could you post your graphiccal settings here? thanx i made my graphics to the lowest and in still dont work. I hope they will change things when, i, they port TLD to mount and blade v1.011
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Kazzan on October 22, 2009, 06:12:25 AM
Uhm, did you set your video options lower in configuration before you start up the game?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: darkmasta82 on October 24, 2009, 09:44:47 AM
Uhm, did you set your video options lower in configuration before you start up the game?
yep, before i got ingame i click config and set all to the LOWEST POSSIBLE.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: cool orc dude on October 30, 2009, 09:33:35 AM
                                            ???            :(                   :'(
i downloaded TLD 2,4 and unpacked and installed it on my windows computer but when i duble click on the mount and blade
icon and choose LTD
 i starts prosesing INI files and the cumputer says this eror "biiiiiib" sound and the game proceeds no further!
why!?! what shall i do and why does mt computer goes BIIIIIIB!?!?!?!?!?!?!  :?:
 
if anyone can help i'll be  very happy

repeat after me: "I will not use more than three smilies in one post and I will use the spellcheck!"

--- Merlkir
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on October 30, 2009, 04:06:45 PM
You probably installed TLD in your M&B 1.011 folder, right? There are instructions here on how to install it correctly, look around.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Triglav on October 30, 2009, 05:41:27 PM
what shall i do and why does mt computer goes BIIIIIIB!?!?!?!?!?!?!  :?:
 

Heavens!
Gather round good people!
We've got one here who's got a computer that goes BIIIIIB!!!!
It's a miracle! It's a miracle I tell ye!
Rejoice!
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: cool orc dude on October 31, 2009, 03:19:48 AM
 "I will not use more than three smilies in one post and I will use the spellcheck"
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Merlkir on October 31, 2009, 04:43:30 AM
what shall i do and why does mt computer goes BIIIIIIB!?!?!?!?!?!?!  :?:
 

Heavens!
Gather round good people!
We've got one here who's got a computer that goes BIIIIIB!!!!
It's a miracle! It's a miracle I tell ye!
Rejoice!

The machine that goes pinnnngggg! My favourite!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arCITMfxvEc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arCITMfxvEc)

"I will not use more than three smilies in one post and I will use the spellcheck"

good lad. Now, I hope you'll remember it. ;)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Necrolancer on October 31, 2009, 05:12:22 PM
Hallelujah my computer never goes BIIIIIIB!?!?!?!?!?!?!

The kill Goblins quest guy seems to be bugged. He just gives you gold without caring have you actualy killed any goblins.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Triglav on November 03, 2009, 05:41:56 AM
Hallelujah my computer never goes BIIIIIIB!?!?!?!?!?!?!

The kill Goblins quest guy seems to be bugged. He just gives you gold without caring have you actualy killed any goblins.

It was meant to be like that. WHat does he care about goblins anyway. He's been given this load of money to distribute and as far as he's concerned the world's gonna end soon anyway. So why bother counting goblins?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: FleshyStarfish on November 04, 2009, 07:11:35 AM
Hallelujah my computer never goes BIIIIIIB!?!?!?!?!?!?!

The kill Goblins quest guy seems to be bugged. He just gives you gold without caring have you actualy killed any goblins.

It was meant to be like that. WHat does he care about goblins anyway. He's been given this load of money to distribute and as far as he's concerned the world's gonna end soon anyway. So why bother counting goblins?

Goblins are for girls.  The real money is in the BIIIIIIB.

FS
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: darkmasta82 on November 05, 2009, 05:36:06 AM
Guys, i tried on another computer with windows xp installed and this is an error i get whenever i try to start a new game

Assertion failed!
Program: C:\Mount&Blade\mount&blade.exe
File\develop\mb\rgl\rglstring.cpp
Line: 285

Expression: (curser + Len)  <= Str_Length

How can i fix this?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on November 05, 2009, 08:23:16 AM
Guys, i tried on another computer with windows xp installed and this is an error i get whenever i try to start a new game

Assertion failed!
Program: C:\Mount&Blade\mount&blade.exe
File\develop\mb\rgl\rglstring.cpp
Line: 285

Expression: (curser + Len)  <= Str_Length

How can i fix this?

Probably a bad installation. Have you tried playing .808 native? If it gives you the same error (which I think it will), you intalled it wrong.

Make sure you don't instal M&B .808 to your 1.011 M&B directory, and make sure you put TLD in the .808 directory. There are instructions both here and at the Taleworlds forum on how to have multiple M&B versions runing, just look for them if needed.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: darkmasta82 on November 05, 2009, 09:44:25 AM
Guys, i tried on another computer with windows xp installed and this is an error i get whenever i try to start a new game

Assertion failed!
Program: C:\Mount&Blade\mount&blade.exe
File\develop\mb\rgl\rglstring.cpp
Line: 285

Expression: (curser + Len)  <= Str_Length

How can i fix this?

Probably a bad installation. Have you tried playing .808 native? If it gives you the same error (which I think it will), you intalled it wrong.

Make sure you don't instal M&B .808 to your 1.011 M&B directory, and make sure you put TLD in the .808 directory. There are instructions both here and at the Taleworlds forum on how to have multiple M&B versions runing, just look for them if needed.

I dont even have any other version of Mount and blade on this laptop, this laptop is XP, and Native works fine. Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on November 05, 2009, 01:30:21 PM
OK, post that laptop specs then (processor, RAM, graphics card) and make sure your directX is up to date, although that shouldn't be the problem, unless it's a very old version.

I'm guessing it's the graphics card. Most laptops have graphics cards which share system memory, and those can't run TLD (which is much more demanding regarding the graphics than native).
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: darkmasta82 on November 06, 2009, 01:12:55 PM
oH  actually i reinstalled The last days and it still didnt work. I reinstalled mount and blade and wer workin :) but i think im gonna give up on it and wait for the 1.011 port. Its so frustrating getting troops etc and there arent even seiges :(
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Serius on December 02, 2009, 09:31:54 PM
Okay, When I download the damn mod, i click on my downloads thing to open the mod. It says its an unknown publisher (as usual). i say to proceed to open it and before the install wizard pops up a message pops up that says the installation directory or something about the place where it should be downloaded to isn't valid or some shit and says to make sure that the directory is correct. I'm really pissed as it's late and I wanted to play this mod a bit before i go to bed. PLEASE HELP
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Merlkir on December 03, 2009, 02:47:06 AM
"some shit" is not exactly a bug report we can respond to. If you can't be arsed to tell us properly, we can't be arsed to help you.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Bmen on December 17, 2009, 04:31:18 AM
When it's on

(http://i45.tinypic.com/sdh25c.jpg)
 
It goes to this
(http://i45.tinypic.com/wtwosi.jpg)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Merlkir on December 17, 2009, 04:37:06 AM
seems you installed it on 1.011. This mod is for 0.808!
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Bmen on December 17, 2009, 05:38:00 AM
Strange all my mods for .808 work fine but TLD.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Merlkir on December 17, 2009, 08:01:24 AM
Do you have a separate install for the 0.808 version? Because I think the rider image was not there in 0.808 native, it's not supposed to happen.
Anyway, it's most certainly not the fault of TLD, you did something wrong somewhere. It's a bit hard to guess what exactly.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on December 17, 2009, 10:36:15 AM
What Merlkir said; you installed it wrong. Go to your M&B 1.011 folder/Modules and look for the TLD folder there. Then just right click on it, select cut. Go to your M&B .808 folder/Modules, right click on the Modules folder and select paste. Wait for the files to be moved there. Then make sure you launch M&B .808 and select TLD as the module you want to play. You should now be able to play it.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Grocat on December 20, 2009, 09:31:45 AM
Posted something to this effect on the main forums.  I don't get any sort of error screens or anything that tells me I did something obviously wrong...but, once I have started a game, and my little dude is all excited to go adventuring and on the map, I click for him to go somewhere, which he does, walking for about a second before turning on some kind of cloaking device and being uncontrollable.  Additionally, only after he has gone into this stealth mode, the Character/ Inventory/ Party buttons will no longer do anything...and all I am able to do is toggle between my Quest Screen, which is interesting, but not enough to keep me captivated for very long, and the world map (rather, just the small section of the world map that my view was on when my dude went ninja stealth on me, since I can't use the WASD to move the map screen).  Also, I can click escape and go to the main menu, but things are still amiss when I return.

Important notes.  I copied all of my files for TLD from one computer to the one now which isn't working right (the specs are much better on the new computer...I don't think it is a graphics issue).  I have version .808 on the computer, and only version .808.  Native works just fine...wonderfully even.  And, TLD works fine until 1 second into the game, where I become invisible.  Interestingly enough, I am clearly moving, and there is time progression as far as I can tell, since it tells me that my invisible dude is starving every once in a while.

Any thoughts?

-Grocat
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on December 20, 2009, 02:42:00 PM
That's usually a video memory issue, try lowering some of the grahics options and see if it works. Also, disable "sound variation" while you're at it.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Grocat on December 21, 2009, 09:08:14 AM
Really?  My computer runs 1.011 really well with all of the graphics turned up.  I just installed it to see.  However, I am wondering if my operating system might be at fault.  I am using Windows 7, which I just upgraded to, and it gives me these annoying notices where it tells me I don't have permission to do certain things (which is odd since I am logged on as the Administrator).  I had similar issues with Vista.

Is that within the realm of possibility?

Anyway, I feel as though I may just have to wait until 1.011 comes out.  So, godspeed and good luck.

-Grocat
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Ettore on December 21, 2009, 09:25:38 AM
Windows 7 has some compatibility problems with some graphic programs (catalyst ones  for example) so if you made before  upgrade a compatibilty text it tell you to delete them and reinstall them after upgrade.
I hope this is useful.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on December 21, 2009, 10:35:15 AM
Really?  My computer runs 1.011 really well with all of the graphics turned up.  I just installed it to see.  However, I am wondering if my operating system might be at fault.  I am using Windows 7, which I just upgraded to, and it gives me these annoying notices where it tells me I don't have permission to do certain things (which is odd since I am logged on as the Administrator).  I had similar issues with Vista.

Is that within the realm of possibility?

Anyway, I feel as though I may just have to wait until 1.011 comes out.  So, godspeed and good luck.

-Grocat

M&B .808 is heavier on the graphics than 1.011 and TLD makes it even heavier. A lot of laptops which run 1.011 fine can't even load TLD on .808. Can't hurt to play with the graphics setting and see what happens.

Might be something like Ettore mentioned though.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Kiah911 on December 21, 2009, 05:33:51 PM
Can somebody please post a clear step-by-step on how to install this game?? I have played it before but I have the same issues installing it. Unclear threads and directions. It was some time ago when I played it...but PLEASE some one dont refer me to more threads or anything, just copy and paste a clear and direct step-by-step on what to do. First for starters. Should I just install 808 right off the bat, and not bother with installing 1.011 or what ever version they got now. I am going to go ahead and install it now that I think about it...from that point on please tell me what to do...I have the TLD file and I am going to move it to my documents folder for safe keeping, or should I go ahead and delete that and re-install it. Thats what I have been doing, every time I start it and it doesnt work, I exit out of it, and move the TLD folder to my doc. since it takes forever to download..lol..
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on December 21, 2009, 05:51:37 PM
I end up using the search function for you ::)

Hey Dablade, thanks for the link but unfortunately un-installing everything is out of the question for me.

As I've mentioned before I am using my brothers computer to do my computing... and he doesn't really care much for TLD.
But he does like M&B native and has a high level guy on it and so I can't do anything unless it doesn't jepordise his hard worked character.

So thats why I ask can I install .808 over .902 without having to uninstall .902.

(P.S we don't have .903 because like I said, high level guy.)

No, don't do that, it won't work.

Do as follows:

1- Rename the current Mount&Blade folder to something like Mount&Blade_902 (just add "_902" to the name).
2- Install M&B .808 (make a full install, not an update). Besides the Mount&Blade_902 folder, you'll have a new Mount&Blade folder too (.808).
3- Now, install TLD (it will go to the new M&B folder, which is .808).
4- After you installed TLD, rename your new Mount&Blade folder to something like Mount&Blade_808.
5- Now rename your Mount&Blade_902 folder back to Mount&Blade.
6- Go to your Mount&Blade_808 folder and look for the "mount&blade.exe" file. Rename it to something like M&B_808.exe. Now right-click on it and select "send to desktop (create shortcut)". You'll have two M&B shortcuts on your desktop now; one named "Mount&Blade" which will be the .902 version, and another one named "shotcut to M&B_808.exe" which will be the .808 version (you can rename it to something shorter like "M&B_808" if you wish).
7- Go play TLD and have fun ;)

EDIT: It probably sounds more complicated than it is, just make sure you follow the instructions carefully and you'll have both M&B versions runing in less time than it takes to write these instructions.

Hi everyone,

I'm not new to M&B, but I am new to The Last Days.  I rolled back M&B to .808 to play it, and it looks like an amazing mod; however, constant CTD's are completely ruining it for me. 

I've never had any trouble running Mount and Blade at all, and have always been able to run it at 1024 x 768 resolution with the texture slider at 100.  When I installed TLD, I could no longer do that.  No problem, I thought.  I'll just tweak the graphics until it works.

Several hours of experimentation later, I'm at the lowest possible texture and resolution settings, every graphics option in the game disabled, battle size down to 10, and the game still takes eons to start up and crashes randomly when I try to enter a town.  No error messages, just CTD after CTD.  Profoundly irritating.  I've also tried the available low-res texture packs to no avail.

I've got a P4, 2 GHz, 256 MB RAM.  I'd be grateful for some assistance.

You can't roll it back to .808, you'll have to make a fresh .808 installation. You may still have issues because you should have at least 1Gig of RAM. My graphics card has more RAM than your computer... :P

Do as follows:

1- Uninstall all.

2- Install .808 and then any mod for .808 version. Then, rename the folder to something like "Mount&Blade_808". If you want to create a desktop shortcut, rightclick on the "mount&blade.exe" file and rename it to something like "mount&blade_808.exe". Then you can rightclick again and select "send to desktop (create shortcut)"; this shortcut will always launch M&B .808.

3- Install .89x. then you'll have both the default M&B shortcut in your desktop (which will launch the latest version), and the shortcut you created before which will launch .808 version. Any M&B update will target the latest version (because you changed the .808 folder name), so you'll always have your .808 installation no matter whatever updates you install in the future.

4- Have fun ;)

5- If 4 doesn't work, buy yourself some more RAM. :P

You need to know the basics on how to handle files and folders and how to install and uninstall stuff to do this kind of thing. If you can't handle that, there's nothing I can do to help you. I'm not going to start a tutorial on how to move stuff and rename folders :P
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Kiah911 on December 21, 2009, 07:35:49 PM
So install the normal M&B and install .808 into that file and rename the entire file Mount&Blade.808?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Kiah911 on December 21, 2009, 07:43:16 PM
This is what I gathered from that

1: Install the normal MB
2: Install .808 (I dont know which file thou..)
3: rename the entire file MB_.808 or something
4: launch .808 and it should work?

I'm not doing nothing more untill I know for sure lol I've tried over 12 times.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on December 21, 2009, 11:31:08 PM
No, no, no, no.

Let's start from the beginning. You need to know what a folder is before you proceed.

1- Uninstall any version of M&B you might have in your computer, it's better like this. I hope you know how to do that.
2- Make sure the M&B folder in Program Files is gone. In case it isn't delete it. I hope you know how to use the explorer to look for that folder.
3- Install M&B .808: double-click on the Installer (mountandblade_0808_setup.exe) . Wait for the installation process to finish.
4- Install TLD: double-click on the Installer (TLD.exe or something like that) and it will detect where all files should go. Wait for the installation to finish.
4b- Or in case you already have an unpacked folder named TLD, just move it to the Modules folder inside your M&B folder (C:\Program Files\Mount&Blade\Modules). In the end you should have the TLD folder next to the Native folder inside Modules.
5- Launch M&B and select TLD as the module you want to play.
6- Have fun.


Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Kiah911 on December 23, 2009, 06:02:19 PM
Ok great thanks so much :) I know I'm a pain, but it worked this time :D kudo's to you DaBlade :D
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on December 23, 2009, 07:53:51 PM
Ok great thanks so much :) I know I'm a pain, but it worked this time :D kudo's to you DaBlade :D

There you go :)

In case you want to install M&B 1.011 later and still keep .808, ask me how to do it ;)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: MooreyMoose on December 28, 2009, 10:15:41 PM
My game crashes after I hit start new game... :(
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on December 29, 2009, 10:07:24 AM
My game crashes after I hit start new game... :(

Have you tried what I posted above?

And guys, don't send me PMs for technical advice; this is the place to deal with that kind of stuff.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: BountyHunter on January 18, 2010, 05:23:25 PM
yea i am new and ive tryed to play Last Days and it was all successful untill i tryed to start a game and i got a problem called C++ and apparently theres sumthing ronge with your applications plz if u can help me soon im getting very aggravated reinstalling does not help >:D 
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Triglav on January 18, 2010, 06:54:22 PM
gr8 de wy u typ
whr u lrn dat?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on January 19, 2010, 04:39:29 AM
yea i am new and ive tryed to play Last Days and it was all successful untill i tryed to start a game and i got a problem called C++ and apparently theres sumthing ronge with your applications plz if u can help me soon im getting very aggravated reinstalling does not help >:D 

No, there's nothing wrong with TLD. You just need to install it propperly.

Try this:

No, no, no, no.

Let's start from the beginning. You need to know what a folder is before you proceed.

1- Uninstall any version of M&B you might have in your computer, it's better like this. I hope you know how to do that.
2- Make sure the M&B folder in Program Files is gone. In case it isn't delete it. I hope you know how to use the explorer to look for that folder.
3- Install M&B .808: double-click on the Installer (mountandblade_0808_setup.exe) . Wait for the installation process to finish.
4- Install TLD: double-click on the Installer (TLD.exe or something like that) and it will detect where all files should go. Wait for the installation to finish.
4b- Or in case you already have an unpacked folder named TLD, just move it to the Modules folder inside your M&B folder (C:\Program Files\Mount&Blade\Modules). In the end you should have the TLD folder next to the Native folder inside Modules.
5- Launch M&B and select TLD as the module you want to play.
6- Have fun.



Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: trolldt on March 11, 2010, 07:23:49 PM
my problem is that when i launch the game it will work untill i start a new game  it will get to launch then it will stop and say abort retry and ignore when i do ignore it pops back up and if i retry it will either pop back up or go to close program or close program and check for a solution online what should i do? :(



nvm
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: onepostpony on March 11, 2010, 07:40:10 PM
Go into rgl_log.txt and paste the last 10 or so lines here.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on March 12, 2010, 01:13:59 PM
my problem is that when i launch the game it will work untill i start a new game  it will get to launch then it will stop and say abort retry and ignore when i do ignore it pops back up and if i retry it will either pop back up or go to close program or close program and check for a solution online what should i do? :(



nvm

I assume you figured it out already...
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Archimol on March 17, 2010, 02:28:15 PM
Okey first of all I think you're making a hell of a job, but i cannot play the game still :S the bug I'm getting is really weird, when I start the game everything goes normal I even get to se my avatar at the begining, but then when I get 4 trait (yes I play at the top 1min) the game freezes, but only to my character, I mean the game still moves and everything goes smoothly but i cannot move nor even see my character, I tink is really weird. I know it is not my specs because if i appear near to a city i can enter it and do everything, but when the time goes by the firts time it freezes no matter what. Please help me I really want to play this mod.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: DaBlade on March 17, 2010, 11:45:40 PM
Okey first of all I think you're making a hell of a job, but i cannot play the game still :S the bug I'm getting is really weird, when I start the game everything goes normal I even get to se my avatar at the begining, but then when I get 4 trait (yes I play at the top 1min) the game freezes, but only to my character, I mean the game still moves and everything goes smoothly but i cannot move nor even see my character, I tink is really weird. I know it is not my specs because if i appear near to a city i can enter it and do everything, but when the time goes by the firts time it freezes no matter what. Please help me I really want to play this mod.

I think it's probably one of those video memory issues; M&B .808 + TLD (lots of textures to load) = serious stress on the system.

I'd suggest you lower or disable a bunch of eye candy in the M&B config panel and disable "sound variation" while you're at it (very important). Launch the game and see how it goes. In case that solves your problem, you can then start bringing back the eye candy according to what your system can handle.

Let us know how it went.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports [2.4]
Post by: Dr. Pealz on March 19, 2010, 01:43:06 PM
Hello guys!
Im new at the forums and I dont realy know this is kind of Bug or not:
I need to instal version .808 of Mount&Blade, but the Download link that leads to TaleWorlds dont works anymore. Can you give me a link to a working download or do I have to wait till the 1.010 version finishes?
ps: sorry because of my bad english!
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports [2.4]
Post by: DaBlade on March 19, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
Hello guys!
Im new at the forums and I dont realy know this is kind of Bug or not:
I need to instal version .808 of Mount&Blade, but the Download link that leads to TaleWorlds dont works anymore. Can you give me a link to a working download or do I have to wait till the 1.010 version finishes?
ps: sorry because of my bad english!

You can get it here:

http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=1706


Link corrected in the download thread ;)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Dr. Pealz on March 20, 2010, 04:23:45 AM
Hey! Many thanks! =D
EDIT: Damnit! Another problem: I installed M&B 0.808 and started TLD, everything was okay, no problems whit the loadingscreen etc.
But when I pressed the new-game button the other loadingscreen (not the one from the gamestart) apears and at "launching game" he has this error: "Program: ...programmes\Mount&Blade 0.808\mount&blade 0.808.exe    File:\develop\Mb\rgl\rglString.cpp"
What to do now?  ???
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: DaBlade on March 20, 2010, 03:39:17 PM
Hey! Many thanks! =D
EDIT: Damnit! Another problem: I installed M&B 0.808 and started TLD, everything was okay, no problems whit the loadingscreen etc.
But when I pressed the new-game button the other loadingscreen (not the one from the gamestart) apears and at "launching game" he has this error: "Program: ...programmes\Mount&Blade 0.808\mount&blade 0.808.exe    File:\develop\Mb\rgl\rglString.cpp"
What to do now?  ???


Make sure you have M&B .808 and TLD properly installed. You may want to look for instructions about installing multiple M&B versions.

You can also try this:


1- Uninstall any version of M&B you might have in your computer, it's better like this. I hope you know how to do that.
2- Make sure the M&B folder in Program Files is gone. In case it isn't delete it. I hope you know how to use the explorer to look for that folder.
3- Install M&B .808: double-click on the Installer (mountandblade_0808_setup.exec) . Wait for the installation process to finish.
4- Install TLD: double-click on the Installer (TLD.exec or something like that) and it will detect where all files should go. Wait for the installation to finish.
4b- Or in case you already have an unpacked folder named TLD, just move it to the Modules folder inside your M&B folder (C:\Program Files\Mount&Blade\Modules). In the end you should have the TLD folder next to the Native folder inside Modules.
5- Launch M&B and select TLD as the module you want to play.
6- Have fun.





In case everything is installed correctly, try lowering / disabling graphics and sounds options in the M&B config panel as suggested a few posts above.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports and technical issues for 2.4
Post by: Archimol on March 23, 2010, 05:50:53 PM
Okey first of all I think you're making a hell of a job, but i cannot play the game still :S the bug I'm getting is really weird, when I start the game everything goes normal I even get to se my avatar at the begining, but then when I get 4 trait (yes I play at the top 1min) the game freezes, but only to my character, I mean the game still moves and everything goes smoothly but i cannot move nor even see my character, I tink is really weird. I know it is not my specs because if i appear near to a city i can enter it and do everything, but when the time goes by the firts time it freezes no matter what. Please help me I really want to play this mod.

I think it's probably one of those video memory issues; M&B .808 + TLD (lots of textures to load) = serious stress on the system.

I'd suggest you lower or disable a bunch of eye candy in the M&B config panel and disable "sound variation" while you're at it (very important). Launch the game and see how it goes. In case that solves your problem, you can then start bringing back the eye candy according to what your system can handle.

Let us know how it went.



First of all thanx for spending time trying to help us qith our problems, and second Im really sorry that my reply is so late (i got into mid term exams so i didn't have any time to play) but now that i get the time to try your solution it didn't work for me. It's really really weird beacuse I dont have any problem with any other mod (on .808) and the most rare thing about it it is that the game runs without any problem for about 20sec, I mean I can enter anywhere during that time and i dont have any problem with the graphics (but I also try with everything disable), the thing is that the game doen't freezes only my character disappear form the game, everything moves as normal just I dont see my character, I mean they even start conflicts infront of me (where I'm suppose to be) but there's no character of mine and i can't do anything but enter to the main menu, please help me I really want to play this cool mod.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: DaBlade on March 26, 2010, 10:02:23 AM
Archimol, can you post your system specs?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Archimol on March 26, 2010, 07:33:59 PM
My system specs are:
Intel Core duo 1.6GHz 1.6GHz
RAM 2.00GB
Windows Vista
Directx 10
Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset Family 258Mb.

Firts than for the time, but Im serious when I say it had nothing to do with my specs, because it dosen't have any problem runing the game, I mean everything besides me moves as it should and i can even enter the menu (I just cant move or even see my character), i mean i can even enter zones (as long it dosen't pass more than the time you get your first tribute that's when my character goes away). I play M&B and all it mods (even BaW wich uses even more resourses than yours), so I don't thing my problem is about the specs. thanx for your time and hope you can help me.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: DaBlade on March 27, 2010, 01:51:25 AM
Archimol, believe it or not 99% of the problems reported here (if we leave bad installations out) are from people trying to run TLD on a laptop having a videocard that shares system memory, as I believe is your case. The problem you're getting is not new in this board; more laptop users had similar issues. Most of these guys could run .808 native and other mods just fine, but not TLD for .808.

I don't know what BaW is, but if it's not a mod for .808 you can't compare it with TLD. M&B .808 doesn't have the graphical and performance optimizations introduced in the later versions, that's why TLD for .808 is probably the heaviest M&B mod you could possibly find.

I don't think I can give you further advice besides what I already posted, except maybe disabling any programs running in the background (like antivirus, etc.), in order to free as much system resources as possible before trying to launch TLD.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: trueten on March 27, 2010, 10:20:28 AM
I don't know what BaW is, but if it's not a mod for .808
I believe it's Britain at War and it's for 1.011.
And it is pretty known that not all games can run on laptops. I couldn't run the Europa Universalis III on a laptop which is better then my PC.
Title: ERROR: get_object failed for texture:
Post by: h6x6n on April 06, 2010, 11:11:18 PM
when i load up the module when i'm starting the game, I can't get past the loading the ini file.  i get a message box that says  'ERROR: get_object failed for texture:  '

the log file is this:
Code: [Select]
Loading Resource  xtree_meshes
 Loading Resource  grass_meshes
 Loading Resource  plant_meshes
 Loading Module Resource  tld_orc_body_materials
 ERROR: get_object failed for texture: 

i looked in the TLD\Textures folder and I couldn't find a tld_orc_body_materials file

anyone know what's up with this?
Title: Re: ERROR: get_object failed for texture:
Post by: DaBlade on April 08, 2010, 05:32:18 AM
when i load up the module when i'm starting the game, I can't get past the loading the ini file.  i get a message box that says  'ERROR: get_object failed for texture:  '

the log file is this:
Code: [Select]
Loading Resource  xtree_meshes
 Loading Resource  grass_meshes
 Loading Resource  plant_meshes
 Loading Module Resource  tld_orc_body_materials
 ERROR: get_object failed for texture: 

i looked in the TLD\Textures folder and I couldn't find a tld_orc_body_materials file

anyone know what's up with this?

That's a "Resource" kind of file, not a texture. In case everything is propperly installed, it's all there where it should be, I can assure you.

This is probably your system having problems loading all that stuff while the game launches; a very common problem for laptop users.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Kassad on April 14, 2010, 02:32:21 AM
Hi to all...
I cant start playing the game,it comes to the launching game and then a pop up appears....something about a cursor and strenght,anyhow can you help me? I downloaded MaB version 1 and then patched it to 0.808,could this be the problem?
Thanks for the help
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Merlkir on April 14, 2010, 04:08:43 AM
Hi to all...
I cant start playing the game,it comes to the launching game and then a pop up appears....something about a cursor and strenght,anyhow can you help me? I downloaded MaB version 1 and then patched it to 0.808,could this be the problem?
Thanks for the help

Yes, that is the problem. You need to get the 0.808 version and install that, NOT the 1 version.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Caesar on April 15, 2010, 12:18:29 PM
Hi again :)
Cant you just give us a hint about when this will be done? I know you have said you don't give out info, but will it be days? weeks? months?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Merlkir on April 15, 2010, 12:34:02 PM
Hi again :)
Cant you just give us a hint about when this will be done? I know you have said you don't give out info, but will it be days? weeks? months?

months. If everything goes well, it could be during summer. If not, then later.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Caesar on April 15, 2010, 12:37:49 PM
All right. Keep up the good work then  :green:
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: kitthehacker on May 07, 2010, 10:38:14 PM
Hi, whenever I start up Mount&Blade .808, with or without the mod, I create my character, and then select play, and the screen goes black, before flashing white for a second and then back to black. It stays like this unless I close the game. Anyone know how to fix this?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: DaBlade on May 08, 2010, 09:30:48 AM
Hi, whenever I start up Mount&Blade .808, with or without the mod, I create my character, and then select play, and the screen goes black, before flashing white for a second and then back to black. It stays like this unless I close the game. Anyone know how to fix this?

Are you trying to play it on a laptop?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Caesar on May 08, 2010, 05:05:37 PM
Well, i don't know about his computer, but I'm playing on a laptop myself and it works perfectly.
The faces are alittle long, but thats about it.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: kitthehacker on May 09, 2010, 02:13:27 AM
My computer can run 1.011 M&B with the HD texture and HDR lighting mods with full settings with no lag, so it's not the computer
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: DaBlade on May 09, 2010, 11:58:17 AM
My computer can run 1.011 M&B with the HD texture and HDR lighting mods with full settings with no lag, so it's not the computer

M&B .808 is heavier than 1.011 and TLD is the heaviest mod you could find for .808. It could very well be your computer, trust me. If you count bad installation issues out, 99% of the problems reported here are from people trying to run TLD on a laptop, ususally having a graphics card which shares system memory.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: kitthehacker on May 14, 2010, 01:43:22 AM
My computer can run 1.011 M&B with the HD texture and HDR lighting mods with full settings with no lag, so it's not the computer

M&B .808 is heavier than 1.011 and TLD is the heaviest mod you could find for .808. It could very well be your computer, trust me. If you count bad installation issues out, 99% of the problems reported here are from people trying to run TLD on a laptop, ususally having a graphics card which shares system memory.

Well you were right, I turned AA off and it works, but if I try to talk to anyone it says assertion failed and lists a file called rglterrain_map.h in e:/develop/mb/rgl

I tried reinstalling and that didn't work
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: DaBlade on May 14, 2010, 09:56:03 AM
You'll have to turn more stuff off until you get it to work as expected.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: kitthehacker on May 14, 2010, 06:47:17 PM
You'll have to turn more stuff off until you get it to work as expected.

No this has nothing to do with graphical issues, the error says it's an error in the C++ code. I already tried turning more settings down. This is in standard M&B
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: DaBlade on May 14, 2010, 10:16:42 PM
Post what the error is then.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Greenstone on July 09, 2010, 02:19:30 AM
I have the same situation.  Today I downloaded .808 in order to play TLD, but both have the same error within a minute or two, here's the error:

Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
X  Assertion Failed!
Program: ...
File:  ...
Line: ...

Expression:  ray_vec.length() < 10000000000.0f

for information on how your program can cause an assertion failure, see the visual c++ documentation on asserts.

(press retry to debug the application-JIT must be enabled)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: DaBlade on July 09, 2010, 06:41:43 AM
I have the same situation.  Today I downloaded .808 in order to play TLD, but both have the same error within a minute or two, here's the error:

Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
X  Assertion Failed!
Program: ...
File:  ...
Line: ...

Expression:  ray_vec.length() < 10000000000.0f

for information on how your program can cause an assertion failure, see the visual c++ documentation on asserts.

(press retry to debug the application-JIT must be enabled)

Can you play .808 native?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Greenstone on July 09, 2010, 07:21:24 AM
No, both native .808 and TLD have the same error message.  Here are some of my specs, if that helps:

Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.100218-0019)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
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Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: DaBlade on July 09, 2010, 07:33:25 AM
Wrong forum, then :) This thread is just to adress issues regarding TLD, I'm not part of the M&B/Taleworlds staff :)

I'll give you some advice nevertheless: Make sure you know how to run multiple M&B installations, in case you have other versions installed (besides .808). I actually posted instructions on how to set them up somewhere in this thread, so you might want to look for them ;)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug reports for 2.4
Post by: Greenstone on July 09, 2010, 04:50:27 PM
This is the problem I was having, making it compatible with XP fixed the issue.  Game works fine now.

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb298/ThomasVP/ErrorMB.jpg)


I have version .808 installed with TLD 2.4. Every time I try to run the game it gives this error. I haven't touched any of the files so I don't know what's causing the problem.

Does anyone else experienced the same problem or is it just me??

I did not only had the same problem but i found a simple solution! je gebruikt vista. go to properties of your mountandblade.exe of 0.808 and set it to be competable with  windows xp.

Ik haat vista met je mee...
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Greenstone on July 09, 2010, 05:10:46 PM
Well, native works fine now, but whenever I start a dialogue in TLD, or when the old man shows up, I don't see a portrait of their character and the game freezes, I don't even get an error message it just locks up and eventually goes back to windows.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: trueten on July 09, 2010, 05:34:31 PM
Are you using laptop or an ordenary PC?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: DaBlade on July 09, 2010, 05:35:35 PM
Well, native works fine now, but whenever I start a dialogue in TLD, or when the old man shows up, I don't see a portrait of their character and the game freezes, I don't even get an error message it just locks up and eventually goes back to windows.

That's a tipical video memory issue. You'll need to disable or lower some graphical options and see how it goes from there. Make sure to disable "sound variation" while you're at it.

M&B .808 didn't have the graphical optimizations introduced later on, so it's actually heavier than 1.011.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Qwerto on November 05, 2010, 01:50:01 PM
I have just downloaded TLD but when i click new game i get an error that says "assertion failed!" ass well as some file paths and other stuff, can you help or do i need to type out the entire error lol
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Brutus on November 05, 2010, 02:34:49 PM
TLD wont work on the newest version of M&B.  You need to run it on M&B .808.

If that isnt the problem, you should be able to find the problem somewhere in this thread already.  I'd be surprised if its a "new" bug.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: fuu on December 20, 2010, 05:01:11 AM
Hi.

First:

Sorry for my bad english, but im a german :green:

Every time, when im going to a castle or city, the game freeze. And I have an antoher problem:

If I import a character who was created with the TLD Mod, Im not able to fight! The window says: "...You have 1 Troops fit against their 9" and there is only a button "Leave" but the war is startet! Can you help me please?

My Version: 0.808

Thanks and sorry again.


Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: stg1123 on December 27, 2010, 01:38:55 PM
I've downloaded & installed this mod, but when it is on the loading screen, BUNK! get_object failed for texture, an RGL error! any ideas of this problem?
Title: HUGE Bug!! Plesae Help!
Post by: Conners on May 17, 2011, 05:41:43 AM
I have a disappearing bug. I was playing the game, with cheats enabled, teleporting to places every once in a while. Suddenly, when I left a place, I disappeared from the map... Even using the cheat to teleport, I can't move anywhere, I disappear from the map. Time moves at the normal rate, as if I was travelling rather than if I was staying at an inn, I can't use the spacebar to pause or stop and wait, though. I can enter the Quest menu and the Main Menu (IE, where I can quit without saving or go to options), but I can't enter the Character, Inventory or Party menus... I tried waiting for 3 days, with no result.

This all happened from the point where it said, "Weekly Influence, 4/4" I think, each time.


Now, what I've said so far isn't the worst problem... I started a new game, and imported my character. ....The bug happened again!! Even between different games, it happened again. I don't understand how this could be linked to the character export, so I'm worried it'll happen for any game. I'll try and test that. I'll also see if staying at an inn a the time will fix things.


Do you have any suggestions? Has this bug happened before? Is there a fix...? It's really upsetting to not be able to play and not knowing why...


EDIT: I tried staying at an inn... something weird happened. When it was evening, the game paused. The same way as when you're just standing somewhere on the map. I got all the same problems as before, except now I was stuck with the game paused.

Oh, I might've forgotten to mention, the camera locks up too. I can't move the camera at all from the place I had it at.


EDIT2: Tried making a new game without exporting my character. Seems to work now. When Weekly Influence 4/4 came up, I didn't get the glitch. Now I wonder why this is, and what it relates to... I hope it isn't my character's name? I can copy and paste the face-data, at least. ....Actually, am I able to do that? I thought you could copy and paste the random letters and numbers in the Char Export TXT into the screen where you change the face with sliders--but it doesn't seem to work x.x". I can live without a custom face, of course, but it's irritating.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Conners on May 19, 2011, 07:15:32 AM
OK, found out the fix to the bug... Just before the weekly Influence award, I change my character's name..... WTH!?!? Why does my char's name make the game bug x.x"?
Luckily, you can change their name back, after the weekly influence thing.


Now, here's the character name I am using, in case that matters: "Lurtz"

Did you guys set a trap so that people using the name Lurtz for a Uruk-hai will get a game-crashing bug or something o.o"?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Triglav on May 19, 2011, 07:57:45 AM
We did indeed. Because that's a movie name, not a Tolkien name.  >:D
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Yurio on May 22, 2011, 08:45:11 AM
We did indeed. Because that's a movie name, not a Tolkien name.  >:D

wait. did you really do that. because im getting that same problem. o.-
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Conners on May 24, 2011, 02:00:15 AM
I too am wondering if you are serious, Triglav.

Regardless, strange thing: This time, I still had the name Lurtz, when the Influence reward came around. Yet, no bug this time. Not sure why it is caused sometimes, unless you really did code it as a trap, and made it so it only works the first couple of times.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Avenger on June 02, 2011, 01:01:47 AM
Getting freezes with big battles that last 1 second and the screen goes a tiny bit blueish when they happen, grass etc goes blueish, after installing the new NVIDIA 275.33 drivers for my GeForce GT 540M 2Gb. Must be some of the "NVIDIA - Programs - 3D settings" where I must select which GPU features are used by the application. I've tried several, but to no avail..

I am playing M&B 0.808 with TLD 2.40 (as 2.41 still doesn't want to install right/work).

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit, but the game played fine with the last drivers.. don't want to revert to those old drivers just for M&B.. Any ideas which GPU feature might cause these blue freezes?
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: GetAssista on June 02, 2011, 01:14:23 AM
Any ideas which GPU feature might cause these blue freezes?
No idea, but try to lower video options for the game itself, see if it helps, then return them back one by one. Maybe it will produce a clue
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: FleshyStarfish on June 03, 2011, 02:53:11 AM
Getting freezes with big battles that last 1 second and the screen goes a tiny bit blueish when they happen, grass etc goes blueish, after installing the new NVIDIA 275.33 drivers for my GeForce GT 540M 2Gb. Must be some of the "NVIDIA - Programs - 3D settings" where I must select which GPU features are used by the application. I've tried several, but to no avail..

I am playing M&B 0.808 with TLD 2.40 (as 2.41 still doesn't want to install right/work).

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit, but the game played fine with the last drivers.. don't want to revert to those old drivers just for M&B.. Any ideas which GPU feature might cause these blue freezes?

Sounds like you have a laptop, the 540M version is usually used for laptops.  Anyway, I've read in the TWII forums that a LOT of people were having problems with support for this video card.  Maybe you will find a fix there to help you here.

FS
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Avenger on June 03, 2011, 04:34:27 AM
the game options shouldn't be the issue as my *ahem* laptop is fast enough to run 300 person battles, just the new drivers are giving me trouble. Ill just have to experiment with the GPU settings so that it works like it did with the last drivers.. Ill have to experiment with battlesizer aswell..

thanks for the responses though, dont know what is TWII though
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: trueten on June 03, 2011, 08:20:38 AM
Has anyone tried to convert .ogg sound files in old 0.808 version? I wonder if it works there too :)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Merlkir on June 03, 2011, 08:46:19 AM
It should be the same thing imo. Try ;)
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: FleshyStarfish on June 03, 2011, 09:11:24 AM
the game options shouldn't be the issue as my *ahem* laptop is fast enough to run 300 person battles, just the new drivers are giving me trouble. Ill just have to experiment with the GPU settings so that it works like it did with the last drivers.. Ill have to experiment with battlesizer aswell..

thanks for the responses though, dont know what is TWII though

Medieval II: Total War.

I was researching in their forums due to a different issue I've been having with a mod there called Kingdoms Grand Campaign.  Great stuff.  Anyway, there I read a LOT of complaints about the 540 video card which I've also read on the Dell website.  Many people complained that for some reason there was little help in addressing any issues related to the video card.  I know that doesn't fix this issue, but at least you know that you're not alone.

FS
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Kiah911 on June 19, 2011, 09:03:43 PM
Okkkk. So I had v 1.1101 or what ever of M&B. I unstalled my M&B and just went to the file that downloads v .808, is that okay? I didn't download anything from taleworlds like usual. I hope that makes sense!

Secondly, after I did that, I downloaded TLD and it auto-installed its self into the mods folder in the .808 M&B folder...well I thought that was it. But every time i log into the game, it loads and everything, up until the point where I enter into the map after creating my char. and the screen flashes black every few seconds and everything is paused. I have to exit the game and everything. Did I miss any steps or anything or do it wrong? If so, can anyone please tell me step by step what to do as if you were talking to a 3rd-grader moron? LOL. (everything has to be clear as blue skies for me or I'll be all lost n confused;D )
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: xDiGiTaL_FeaR- on July 09, 2011, 09:07:54 AM
i get a RGL error when i try to load the mod :/
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: Aaeni on July 09, 2011, 01:40:17 PM
I was fighting in an Isengard blood match. The guy says I have to fell 100 of their men alone. If I bring a companion with me, I face 200 or something like that, 3 at a time.

I entered the match, fought the battle. I eventually died, and when I talked to the guy I got a hefty sum of money and I looked at how many I had killed. 117. Yet, apparently, that won't get me noticed by the master.
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: bmislegit13 on July 27, 2011, 02:38:48 PM
i have reinstalled this mod 3 times but it keeps crashing! i'll click start game and it'll load up to the point where it says launching  game then it crashes! what do i do, i really want to play this mod.
 :'( :(
Title: Re: TLD: Bug Reports and Technical Help [2.4]
Post by: thecalaquendi on September 08, 2011, 04:30:41 PM
How did you install it? Did you apply the 2.4.1 patch?