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HELP FOR PLAYERS 1.2.3 / 2.0.
« on: September 13, 2007, 02:31:59 AM »
this mod is awesome but im stuck I have all the guardians I've done all the quests but i cant get initiated  can someone help me out?
edited- I just found out what my next quest should be but the priestess wont give me the hunt down undead armys quest.

Hm, when you get all guardinas you must visit astral portal again. There you will get shadow horse and then, you will go to Guardians Abbey. There you will leave nema. Then you will talk with her about your initiation.
Try this, else we will find your problem in other place.

« Last Edit: February 20, 2008, 08:59:47 AM by nema »

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Re: HELP FOR PLAYERS
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2007, 02:45:29 AM »
Posted: 2007/9/6 9:29 

Antiga

One of the most enjoyable mods out there at the moment, though far from being balanced, there is really quite alot to do, I love the caravan system even though it makes alot of stuff way too easy(Finding hidden places, completing raid quests, etc), the weapons etc are all way overpowered and even with the best armor I can find so far a shadow knight can kill me with one hit, not even mentioning 'Darkness' which you might survive if you get extremely lucky, but with all the recruitable characters and extra quests, chests with equipment to find all over, and a nice amount of roaming parties on the map, there is really plenty to have fun on.

...I myself have not even read any readme or info on the game, apart from its features, and with the info obtained from the trainer in the Astral Portal where you begin, it's really not hard to get started, try asking merchants for the news, they will give you hints as to where to find chests, tavern keepers will give you alot of usefull information if you buy a drink, reading what the characters say, and doing so will get you far. I am only on day 2, level 13, got 4-5 companions including lady galadriel, a full army of Guardian Sisters and Brothers, about 8k in cash and the best armor ingame along with a few of the best weapons...

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Re: HELP FOR PLAYERS
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2007, 01:07:02 AM »

I need help. I start out with NOTHING, I have no idea where to go (the woman in the training ground talks about a village named On which clearly isnt on the map), the tournaments are incredibly difficult. Swords make way too little damage, and I get the spear more than Id like. A spear that doesnt work because the character thinks its an axe and tries to chop with it, doing an extremely frustratin 0 damage.

What is it that I have to do?

By the way, cool idea for this mod, with the dreaming and stuff, and all the over the top weapon and armor designs (and 20 scantily clad sword wielding women fighting in an arena is extremely arousing lol)


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Re: HELP FOR PLAYERS
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2007, 03:27:20 PM »
I talked to Nema she said "have you gathered all eleven sisters and told sister ismilla" And when i talk to sister ismilla who I believe is the training ground mistress she tells me what she told me before i got any of the guardians
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Re: HELP FOR PLAYERS
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2007, 01:46:09 AM »
I talked to Nema she said "have you gathered all eleven sisters and told sister ismilla" And when i talk to sister ismilla who I believe is the training ground mistress she tells me what she told me before i got any of the guardians
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Usually I didn't find some problems here.

Our last chance to fast resolve of this problem is that you take again all 11 sisters in your party. It is important, because if they are not there, dialog will not work. They must be with you. Sometimes I found out that I forgot some one. Then try to talk with Ismila on astral portal. Yes, she is the only person there – training ground mistress.
If it still not works, tell me, and we will resolve this problem via mail.

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Re: HELP FOR PLAYERS
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2007, 12:57:39 AM »
it seems i have been everywhere....but yet i cannot find the shields of ?abcusus?......any way i would just like to know the general area of each shield and how to put them to use . . .thx

Kidnapped girl quests



You can get this quest from nema of from any merchants. To take it or finish it, is not important for your next quest.
When you already find and save her from kidnappers take her as prisoner.
When you will come back to initial town, she will leave and you will find her on the holy ground. She will heal your troops and you as well.
She will ask you for abacus shields.

All shields are in chests.
Ask traders and tavern keepers about the chests!
(On the walls of Abbey (nema)/visible/
Tower of the lake in Four Ways Inn (in the lake, in the tower – same chest)(Ymira)/unvisible/
Old Salt mine (kidnapped girl)/marked/
Towns (Gor (back yard),
           Tir (creek),
           Naghual (on the walls)
)/visible/
Castles ( Guardian’s, Galadriels’s, Lilith’s, Suelita’s, Ismila’s, Dionisia’s places
Marked wirh abacus shield and candele.)/marked/
You can visit castles after successful sieges, it is a harder way, or you can simply find doors to them from Astral portal.

So, 12 all together.
You find correct chest and there is (as traders in the towns said: Peoples are talking this days … one for the Abbey…. Did you talk with them?) all what you mentioned, but not just this. You use only eyes for discovering. If you will use mouse you will see this:


And if you try to remove this item trough not black background you will see this:


It is combination of transparent or black item with black background. I didn’t find the way to change color of that background. But I put all the items at the top of the chest to easy discover them.

Nema equipment. Well, take all items and nema will pick what she need. Other equipment is prepare for you. There are two staffs. One is blunt. If you will go to the battle alone with nema it is better that she use default not blunt staff. But if you have bigger party, take Guardian staff from her baggage and leave her just Guardian Battle staff. She will hunt many Shadow knights, and you will recruit them, to your army. They are really useful warriors.

You find this chest. But chests in the castles are totally unseen. You will need some time to discover them. But interiors of the castles are small. And I will give you some tips. But please be so nice and tell me if you find all chests. If it is too hard, I will change something. Tips:




You can use them as shields or you can give them to Laiatai.
After then she can teleport you to any town (same as now from tavern keepers).
You can increase all of your values.
You can add priestess Assayah to your troops.

Quest of kidnapped girl given by nema will be at the end, when you will bring all sisters to holy ground.

After that, you can find another kidnapped girl, form traders, and then she can fight with you, but you must avoid her town of course.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2007, 01:24:45 AM by nema »

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Re: HELP FOR PLAYERS
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2007, 02:23:56 AM »
Path of sacred order – sisters’ quests

If you choose this path your steeps will be:

1.   Astral portal talk
2.   On – Oracle – Priestess Assayah will send you to nema in Abbey.
                (On is in the forest between Astral Portal and river)
                (How to Abbey?
                 There is a door at Holly Ground.
                 There is a Door at Astral Portal
                 There is a caravan waiting for you in every inn
                 By walk –Gor, Seff Castle – desert (not recomeded)
3.   Abbey
                (Talk with nema, her chest is on small tower near Holy Ground. You will jump there from the roof of the Holy Ground.
                  After that go to oracle and priestess wil give you quest – Undeads (5 of them)  After that you can find
                  sisters Mora (Undead Walkers) and Essa         (Undead nomads, 5 of them) in Guardians castle.
                (How to castles?
                There is a caravan waiting for you in every inn
                By walk – ask again priestess. She will tell you for the nearest town. (not recomeded)
4.   Suelita’s place (Undead horsemans, 5 of them) (ask for horses and healing of them)
5.   Dionisia’s place (Undead deserters, 5 of them)
6.   Lilith’s place (Undead peasants, 5 of them)
7.   On – priestess (Undead armies, 10 of them. Counters usually doesn’t works)

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Re: HELP FOR PLAYERS
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2007, 02:33:27 AM »
Path of sacred order – Become a member

If you choose this path your steeps will be:

Find them:

1.   Margo in On
2.   Bonie in Nagual
3.   Ymira in Four Ways Inn place (check Holy Ground doors)
4.   nema in Abbey (check Holy Ground doors)
5.   Mora
6.   and Essa in Guardians castle.
7.   Suelita
8.   Dionisia
9.   Lilith
10.   Lady Galadriel
11.   Jedi Ismilla (all in their places)

Visit Astral Portal with all of them and speak with Training ground mistress.
Send nema to Abbey and talk with her.
Visit Astral Portal Again.

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Re: HELP FOR PLAYERS
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2007, 02:38:30 AM »
Path of free brother / sister

You can choose armies quest from priestess or all classical quest in native (as they are in 808)
You can take all sisters with you, except nema.

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Re: HELP FOR PLAYERS
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2007, 02:42:29 AM »
Path of brother / sister

It is game for sisters and there are many armors prepared for them.
If you will be brother you will get brothers armor, or you can buy something from native collection. I recommend to buy staff from Dionisia in On.

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Re: HELP FOR PLAYERS 2.0.
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2008, 08:59:18 AM »
From this point you will find tips for 2.0. Some things upper to this point are more specific for 1.2.3. for 808, but some things are still valid.

This wasn't posted here, but can be useful, even if double posted you can find here much faster than in some random topic:


Doors, khm as you report to me, I believe, that you visit abbey trough some of teleport. You must walk to the Abbey if you want to enter to the basement. In other case it is possible that teleport leads somwhere else. In your case door to basement is maybe somewhere in Abbey, or there is not such door at all. Ask Laia Thai to send your troops to Gor. Abbey is not so far away. Then you will find this:

Let this picture be your tip when you try to find a secret passage.

In cell you will find this interesting magick items. Enjoy.

Ah just one word. Book of Deads is not suitable to other troops. As you know you must shoot with it on the ground before enemy troops. Ordinary troops can't do this. I am not sure but I think that it is same with book The magick art by nema or maybe also with other magick items. You can check, but I suggest you that such items are for player. They are a little beyond understanding of regular troops or heroes.

thanks again :)

Ah yes, did you notice, that wear of magick items in your inventory expand some values. The magick art expand surgery, but Book of deads expand many, many things and also glass sword have such abilities. ;) It is so with magick.
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Re: HELP FOR PLAYERS 2.0.
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2008, 03:15:26 AM »
Let see. It is list of quests:

1.   Find all 7 sisters of holy order. Mahliqua, Basheera, nema, Durdana, Tayyibah, Laia Thai and Aasayah (including kidnapped girl quest, save Basheera from prison and find nema’s equipment)

2.   Hunt down Shadow Knight by Galadriel

3.   Hunt down Undeads by Aasayah

4.   Hunt down Armies by Lilith

5.   Hunt down Undead Nomads by Suelita

6.   Hunt down Undead Walkers by Ismilla

7.   Hunt down Undead Horsemans by Essa

8.   Bring The Book of Deads by Dionisia

9.   Bring The Warrior Sister book by Mora

10.   You can discover all chests: Three chests for the commoners. Six for the castles. One for the mines, One for the abbey, One for the lake, One for all inns, and one, lost with guardians treasure (nema’s basement)

11.   Take all land. You can besiege all towns and castles, until you will become Lord/Mistress of all Astral land. Given by dreaming appearance of priestess Aasayah. (Will you try to enslave at last one kingdom, maybe Norse or Desert elfs. But be sure that you finish all other quests before you start with this one.)


Door teleports are useful to find nema, Tayyibah, Durdana and Aasayah without much map walking. If you find On, Astral Portal, Abbey or Tower of the lake you can talk and recruit all of them, except Priestess of course, but you must talk with her.
But as you saw, you can not always use these teleports when you try to use teleports doors in town where you teleport yourself. Use of teleports/doors can mix ways where doors leads.

If you already find spiked sword - Dark blade. I have dialog with Mahliqua.  It was used in 1.2.3.. She can improve your dark blade if you have it in your inventory, but you mustn't wear it (same as when you want to improve-heal your horses with help of Basheera). I will open this dialog now. It will be in next version. But you already have glass sword, so it is not so important.
OK it's done:



Village at The End of the World


You can find Books of the Deads and Glass sword here in the grave.


/fenada/
« Last Edit: February 21, 2008, 07:33:54 AM by nema »

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Re: HELP FOR PLAYERS 1.2.3 / 2.0.
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2008, 05:39:40 PM »
this is a retarded question but i never really got how you installed the mod....

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Re: HELP FOR PLAYERS 1.2.3 / 2.0.
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2008, 11:02:28 AM »
this is a retarded question but i never really got how you installed the mod....

You must extract zip file in directory mount&blade/moduls/ near native directory. This is for Guardians Party mod.

Some mods have .exe files but I don't like them. They cause many troubles for me even if you have less work to install them.


I cannot find On anywhere in guardians party 2.0.3 for m&b 0.903.I get out of Astral Portal with the woman there but i cannot find On after going out? isnt there On?Or where is it??? what do i have to do??

On is hidden same as Astral portal, Abbey, Salt Mines, and Tower of the Lake. When you see them depend from you view range. For help with location you can use: Show on map button. You find it at the top of screen, if you choose quest and them location button. You will not see town, but you will see location. If you will go there, you will see these towns, when they will be in view range of the party.
But you can also look in forest near river, between Faris and Distar castle.
If you have cheats turn on, you can also open all map with ctrl+t ant all hidden towns will apeare.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2008, 01:46:05 AM by nema »

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Re: HELP FOR PLAYERS 1.2.3 / 2.0.
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2008, 10:18:23 PM »
I am extremely confused, why doesn't the quests the sisters give you to recruit them show up on the quest menu? How do I get Nema's chest? I'm not sure if I'm missing something but I am finding it impossible to get on top of the Holy ground's roof and then getting to the tower from there. Someone who knows what is going on please help me out.

I like how abusable the summoning spells are btw. :) I can keep on refreshing them by going to my luggage. :D