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Re: TLD: Screenshots
« Reply #195 on: September 21, 2009, 03:21:25 pm »
another vote for "I liked the movies." (give or take a few minor things here and there)

but this is an original work, we actually want to use our imaginations ( :shock: eegads!  :shock: ) and not just copy something that's already done.

yeah, we have a few things here and there (Gondor helms, Uruk Shields) that are from the movies, but it's mainly because someone submitted a damned nice model/texture, and we just haven't made anything different. yet.

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« Reply #196 on: September 28, 2009, 03:06:18 pm »
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Re: TLD: Screenshots
« Reply #197 on: September 28, 2009, 09:18:34 pm »
the people on this forum are pretty biased against peter jackson's LOTR, due to his embellishment of the book for screen appearances.  a lot of the older discussions are based on medieval development as a basis for what is more advanced technologically speaking.  a good rule of thumb is: interlocking plate > chain > plate/scale/coat of plates > natural carbon fiber > lacquered leather > cured leather.  tolkien was a linguist that specialized in old european languages, and in LOTR he used the feel of old germanic mythos and such as inspiration.  the early written records of old germanic (which later became english and german among others) were written about the time that chain dominated the battlefields (during the later fall of rome period or early dark ages).  he wasn't an armor specialist or military historian, thus like the average joe he didn't know about why chain was so dominant during that time period and such, as a result he used the terms from old germanic, which in modern terms means chain armor instead of just armor, and all the references in LOTR back up this type of armor as being the best do to the contexts in which the armor is usually mentioned (as it is taken from a time when chain dominated the battlefields).

I have no idea what you just said, but I have the feeling you're wrong.
I'm actually sure you're wrong in one thing, we're not all biased. I love the movies.
Completely wrong.

But if someone says he's doing A, and sticks to concepts laid out in A, and people keep asking why we don't include things from B, and after explaining a zillion times they still keep saying B, B, B! Well...anyone would get a bit cranky. It is of no importance whether we like B or not. We're doing A, because we decided to do A, ok?

'the people' either would refer to a person named 'the people' (or maybe just 'people') or a consesus of people.  so not 'all' as assumed, and since i based this off of the anti peter jackson flaming that was going on last time there was a discussion like this i might be wrong since i don't think many of those people are still here.

as for the rest:
tolkien was good with languages
tolkien was a fan of old germanic
tolkien wasn't a military historian
tolkien doesn't go into a great deal in describing the average armor in his books
plate existed before chain
maille was the term for the armor used that was 'netting' style armor or chain armor (as maille meant netting) which ended up being used reduntantly as chainmail.
plates were used to supplement mail, and later mail was used to supplement interlocking plate armor

triglav are these all wrong??  maybe you could expand on your sources or on what about them is wrong?

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Re: TLD: Screenshots
« Reply #198 on: September 29, 2009, 02:39:16 am »
triglav are these all wrong??  maybe you could expand on your sources or on what about them is wrong?

You're absolutely right, dear sir. I certainly could, but I'm not here to do that. I'm here to work on our mod, not waste time with every single clever fellow who comes here telling us how we should make it. I mean, I do sometimes, but I have to be in the proper mood for that. I'm sure you understand.
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Re: TLD: Screenshots
« Reply #199 on: September 29, 2009, 04:49:07 am »
'the people' either would refer to a person named 'the people' (or maybe just 'people') or a consesus of people.  so not 'all' as assumed, and since i based this off of the anti peter jackson flaming that was going on last time there was a discussion like this i might be wrong since i don't think many of those people are still here.

as for the rest:
tolkien was good with languages
tolkien was a fan of old germanic
tolkien wasn't a military historian
tolkien doesn't go into a great deal in describing the average armor in his books
plate existed before chain
maille was the term for the armor used that was 'netting' style armor or chain armor (as maille meant netting) which ended up being used reduntantly as chainmail.
plates were used to supplement mail, and later mail was used to supplement interlocking plate armor

triglav are these all wrong??  maybe you could expand on your sources or on what about them is wrong?

These are rather irrelevant to our efforts though. It's clear that Tolkien didn't see his Gondorians and Rohirrim wearing plate. And since we're making a mod based on his books, there's no reason for us to put plate in.
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Re: TLD: Screenshots
« Reply #200 on: September 29, 2009, 10:58:37 pm »
i never said that i wanted you guys to change anything, in fact if i am right then my arguments are for doing things the way you have been doing them.  in fact the only faction that would have plate if anyone did (which i am not saying that they did or should) would be the orcs, and then it wouldn't be interlocking plate.

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Re: TLD: Screenshots
« Reply #201 on: September 29, 2009, 11:27:30 pm »
Those are interesting facts. :D  I had forgotten them.  Obviously plate (albeit in bronze form) goes back as far as the Greeks and VERY likely a good deal earlier.

But I don't want to see shiny plate knights...  Tolkien selected a different time period for his heroics, and I appreciate that it is not an Arthurian-spun fantasy.  Not that i think Arthur wore plate except for in contemporary fantasy interpretation.  But that would be digression for another thread.   ::)

Now where are the screenies?!?

Here is a next-gen teaser to get back on topic.  :P




 

   

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Re: TLD: Screenshots
« Reply #202 on: September 30, 2009, 04:32:30 pm »
Wham! Brutus sizes furry boot in your face  :lol: Surprise preview screenie and fashion statement in one... Touche!

Edit: Should post this on the TLD preview thread also, The junkies are littering Taleworlds gutters, they need this little fix hehe
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« Reply #203 on: September 30, 2009, 11:52:24 pm »
nice boots, looks good for rough underbrush.

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Re: TLD: Screenshots
« Reply #204 on: October 20, 2009, 05:28:29 am »
I recently gave the beastie baddies a total rehaul. We're currently rigging dozens of new orc, uruk and uruk-hai armours, there are tons of new helmets, shields, boots, etc.

Here's a shot of a tribal orc in his furry rags:
« Last Edit: October 20, 2009, 05:35:48 am by Triglav »
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Re: TLD: Screenshots
« Reply #205 on: October 20, 2009, 04:41:48 pm »
Very, very nice!

I know it is a bit unpolite, but allow me to demand ask about another thing:
Are you using different size skeletons/models for orcs, i.e. are certain orcs shorter/smaller than regular humans?
Or... will this just be used for extreme cases like trolls & dwarves... or not at all?

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Re: TLD: Screenshots
« Reply #206 on: October 21, 2009, 11:34:29 am »
Yes.

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Re: TLD: Screenshots
« Reply #207 on: October 23, 2009, 04:01:26 am »
indeed

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« Reply #208 on: October 23, 2009, 03:59:27 pm »
Yes.

Not a very elaborate answer, but I hope it meant what I want it to mean, and I assume it already has been answered elsewhere ;)

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Re: TLD: Screenshots
« Reply #209 on: November 01, 2009, 12:30:07 pm »
Ok, more elaborate answear:
we plan to give orcs their custom skeleton. So far, that is used for correcting their posture.
Later, it mught be used to correct their size too.

Here is before VS after posture correction screenshots:


 




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